btremHow did I miss the search box? (I actually think the light colors sort of camouflage it.) Thanks aaronpk. Also thanks [KevinMarks] for the link to the github link.
[tantek]that being said, the UI is quite responsive (try resizing the window), and if you've got suggestions or better chat archive navigation UI examples to point to, please provide them! though since we're talking meta about the IndieWeb community rather than just microformats technical details, I recommend following up in #indieweb-meta
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btremI searched the irc archives for discussion of restaurant menus. I only found passing references to frustrations with pdf and flash. Did I miss anything?
btremHmm, actually, now that I look at it, h-listing is to list multiple availabilities of the same item, i.e., widget foo is available from these vendors....
btremSo much the better if a menu mf could contain an h-card for the restaurant. Then a page can be parsed for the restaurant name, phone number, and menu items.
[tantek]btrem, we usually start with a wiki page like "menu-examples" to capture links (and perhaps screenshots?) of examples of the material published on web pages
btremI suppose the problem is that so many restaurants do the wrong thing: they just upload a pdf for their menu. So it's worth asking now: is there any point in doing the work? Will restaurants use it? Or just continue with their pdfs?
btremWhen a restaurant changes their menu, they have to update a pdf (or some other format for the printer), update their POS system, update their website menu page, and then update menus for any services like Open Table. Talk about violating the DRY principle.
[tantek]indeed. perhaps we can help with the "update their website menu page" step in such a way that some (new?) services can parse the microformats from there directly instead of requiring more one-off labor
btremThere isn't any container for multiple h-product s, which is sort of surprising. So if we do this, we probably want to do something generic. So a bookseller could use the mf to list books for sale on their website. Or a plant nursery could list plants for sale.
[schmarty]btrem: the page itself can act as the container. microformats parsers will parse a page and all found microformats items are placed in an array called "items".
btremBefore I start, I should point out: it's highly likely that a service like doordash or whatever will need detailed info about availability. E.g., a restaurant will often have separate lunch and dinner menus.
[tantek]start with https://microformats.org/wiki/menu to describe the use-cases (both for restaurants publishing and potential sites that could/would consume those menus to provide services to users)
lostinthesauce hey
[KevinMarks] you could do a site: search in google
[tantek] that being said, the UI is quite responsive (try resizing the window), and if you've got suggestions or better chat archive navigation UI examples to point to, please provide them! though since we're talking meta about the IndieWeb community rather than just microformats technical details, I recommend following up in #indieweb-meta
[schmarty] btrem: the page itself can act as the container. microformats parsers will parse a page and all found microformats items are placed in an array called "items".