#microformats 2021-04-06

2021-04-06 UTC
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@kevinmarks ↩️ Sounds like microformats thinking (twitter.com/_/status/1379387610448158725)
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@gausby ↩️ Indeed. I was a massive fan of microformats. Back when I was a front-end web developer, I took care to make everything semantic and fit stuff into the relevant microformats, but that broke down when my colleagues had to make changes to the code later. (twitter.com/_/status/1379388640602820609)
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[tantek] ^ yup, insufficient distinguishing of microformats classnames from others, and insufficient microformats validation tools / tests to catch regressions early & quickly
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[tantek] Interesting thread
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[tantek] more insight in https://twitter.com/gausby/status/1379389725786660870
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Loqi [@gausby] @kevinmarks Unfortunately, the ideas of the semantic web are dead at this point. Organizations have no benefit in making their content available like that. Most developers want to use a framework that allows them to throw in an extra div to solve their problem.
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@kevinmarks ↩️ I recognise that problem - the answer is to add integration tests that check they're still there. That's what was done with the microformats markup in mastodon, and it has stayed active. The mf2 classname prefixes help a bit too. (twitter.com/_/status/1379483605320220673)
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[tantek] [KevinMarks]++
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Loqi [KevinMarks] has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (60 in all channels)
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btrem https://btrem.com/articles/2021/04-svg-microformats
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btrem feedback welcome
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Loqi [Brian Tremblay] Adding Microformats to SVG
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[KevinMarks] I do have webmention for svg at svgshare.com
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[KevinMarks] I serve the svg with webmention link elements
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btrem That's a cool idea.
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btrem I wasn't sure if h-card would work in svg, but it appears to be working just fine.
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[KevinMarks] Done right svg parses as html. There is the xml constraint, but Tantek has been doing that for a few years too
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btrem Well I guess I'm late to the game. I haven't come across the idea in the many svg tutorials I've read over the last few months.
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[KevinMarks] Svg is a bit of a parallel world, in that they still have 3 animation models
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btrem I don't know anything about animation. I'm only using it for static graphics. Logos mostly. Some icons.
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btrem If I had the tools, it'd be kinda cool to animate the Greenbank logo. Have the leaves blow in a breeze, or maybe fall off and regrow. But that's *way* beyond my tool set/abilities.
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[KevinMarks] Svg as a "I want to make vector graphics" is great - good primitives and inheritance. You can do full layouts, but that gets a bit trickier as every html+css thing has an svg parallel version
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