#microformats 2021-05-18

2021-05-18 UTC
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[chee] hmm, i'm wanting to post an album (of songs). I'm thinking I should publish each track as individual audio posts, and then post a collection with the album cover as `u-featured`
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barnabywalters hmm yeah that’s an interesting case which mf2 doesn’t really cover
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barnabywalters h-entry with u-audio works for well for podcast episodes, but is a bit of a stretch for an album
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barnabywalters I suppose right now, an h-feed for the album and individual h-entries for each track would be the best way to capture order and individual track information
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[chee] oh, i haven't looked at h-feed. i've been looking at this: https://indieweb.org/collection which notes a the order of items matters in a collection. though it also mentions there is no agreed upon markup for a collection
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[chee] so maybe i do that same idea, but i use h-feed as the markup for a collection? a feed seems strange semantically because it will never change, (an album is a static collection, and a feed feels like a dynamic collection) but maybe that doesn't matter
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barnabywalters yeah, another approach would be to have an h-entry for the album, as it’s a piece of content published at a particular time, and then embed each track as another h-entry within it, in lieu of a better mf2 representation of an audio track
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barnabywalters a mf2 vocab for information about an audio track might be a good place to re-open research efforts. it looks like there was a classic mf vocab for albums and tracks
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[chee] yeah, I think h-entry containing h-entries that link to the individual track posts (u-audio) feels right. the album is a Thing that people can Like, as are the individual tracks
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barnabywalters yep, and the bandcamp UI is a good example of both albums and individual tracks being “posts” with URLs
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barnabywalters something like this, maybe https://gist.github.com/barnabywalters/6d51219e7b73f6c8adafd9a423147c59
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barnabywalters either with the track h-entries as plain children, or as u-audio h-entry properties to make it clear that they’re part of an audio representation of the album h-entry
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[chee] thank-you, barnabywalters. this seems to work well :) https://ruby.microformats.io/microformats?utf8=%E2%9C%93&url=https://chee.snoot.club/unidentified/
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Loqi [chee] unidentified
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[chee] that's right, loqi
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barnabywalters nice! listening now :)
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barnabywalters I like all the rainbow gradients on your site
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[chee] :D thank you
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[chee] nice, i've added syndication links for each track to the track on SoundCloud, and from the album page to the playlist on SoundCloud. and it's parsed as an `h-entry` with `h-entry` children who each have an `audio` and it feels right
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barnabywalters cool! can you add it as an example of a music album to https://indieweb.org/album?
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[chee] done!
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[schmarty] chee ++ !
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@kevinmarks ↩️ The combination of webmentions with microformats gives a way to provide structured responses https://indieweb.org/responses You can use a fragmention to refer to a piece of text too (twitter.com/_/status/1394652111607062533)
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[chee] i think this means i can now claim to have released the world's first indie album, and to be the co-creator of indie music
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barnabywalters lol
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