#microformats 2022-11-15

2022-11-15 UTC
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@schnarfed
↩️ AP and webmention are indeed both W3C recs: https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/, https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/. AP is aimed more at federating multi-user servers with high traffic push JSON, webmention more at individual personal web sites, HTML w/microformats, more balanced btw push and pull.
(twitter.com/_/status/1592558358376382465)
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[tantek]
snarfed++ good summary
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Loqi
snarfed has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (71 in all channels)
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[tantek]
lol the .txt top level file anti-pattern
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[aciccarello]
Leaning on robots.txt and ads.txt seems like a poor example of good practice
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[tantek]
huh? they're a bad practice
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[aciccarello]
That's my point
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[aciccarello]
"we're following this really good example" (points to bad example)
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[tantek]
ahhh, that's worth pointing out!
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[tantek]
especially if we can capture quotes that illustrate it
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[aciccarello]
From the PDF "The concept of a trust.txt file borrows heavily from two previous very successful efforts improving the overall experience of the internet: robots.txt and ads.txt."
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[aciccarello]
I think they are conflating "success" with "widely used". "improving overall experience" seems to be giving too much credit in that quote
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[aciccarello]
Looks like there is some overlap with rel=me and open graph in that spec too defining related social media accounts
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[tantek]
hah I haven't heard of ads.txt
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[aciccarello]
I've heard that is a cesspool mostly due to the financial incentives involved with ad money. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/adstxt-zero-day-exploit-wild-brief-history-fraud-ad-fraud-historian/
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[tantek]
wow it has a Wikipedia page. ok I'll add it to the list