#social 2014-11-13

2014-11-13 UTC
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AnnBassetti Hi All .. I just finished reading the mail thread about vocabulary
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AnnBassetti I don't know much about this ...
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AnnBassetti does it boil down to json vs rdf?
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AnnBassetti does it have to be either / or?
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tantek I haven't read the thread either - I figure the email discussions are all informal
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tantek do you have a URL to the mail thread?
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AnnBassetti one sec
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AnnBassetti (I could use some tips from someone on the fastest way to find an email archive... I always flounder around on this)
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AnnBassetti (you'd think I would've learned after all these years)
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tantek it's not your fault
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tantek email and email archives are still abhorrently painful to use / search etc.
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tantek technology stuck in the 1990s
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AnnBassetti OK .. here's the whole archive for the social web WG: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-socialweb/
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AnnBassetti and the thread I'm asking about starts here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-socialweb/2014Nov/0045.html
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tantek whoa namechecked in the first post
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tantek now that's a scary looking thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-socialweb/2014Nov/thread.html#msg45
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tantek I think I need to implement "email" posts on my own site, which then POSSE to the mailing list, just to make a point
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tantek ah I see jasnell has some wise things to say: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-socialweb/2014Nov/0058.html
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tantek and points to the wiki
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tantek AnnBassetti: I added an h-card example: https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/Social_Vocabulary#1.1.1_h-card
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AnnBassetti which is microformat, right?
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tantek right
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AnnBassetti so then my question is ... is the discussion json vs rdf vs microformats?
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AnnBassetti OR can they co-exist in some way?
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AnnBassetti OR ... maybe that's what's in discussion
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tantek there is some chance at coexistence yes
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tantek which is what jasnell and I worked on
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AnnBassetti cool beans
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AnnBassetti at least, if it makes sense ... beats the heck out of having a battle
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tantek see https://www.w3.org/wiki/Activity_Streams/Microformats_Mapping
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tantek which I didn't see mentioned in that thread at all
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tantek AnnBassetti: I expect battles on the email list regardless
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AnnBassetti I hold out hope for friendly, if intellectually stimulating, collaboration
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tantek but if you actually look at what's growing in terms of *social web publishing* - (as distinct from just "social publishing" or just "web publishing"), microformats like h-entry h-card and h-cite are what's going out there.
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tantek I believe in friendly, if intellectually stimulating, collaboration as well
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tantek just not on a mailing list
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tantek perhaps here in IRC plus the wiki
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AnnBassetti yes, indeed
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AnnBassetti ----------------------------
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AnnBassetti how did you get that link, above, that points to the whole thread (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-socialweb/2014Nov/thread.html#msg45 ), rather than what I put, which linked to the first entry in the thread?
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tantek start with the link you posted, click on it, then click on the hyperlink with label "[ by thread ]"
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tantek welcome pdurbin!
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pdurbin bows
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pdurbin tantek: thanks!
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pdurbin now I wonder what other networks Loqi is on
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jasnell FYI: https://github.com/jasnell/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/issues/54
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tantek reminder to Social Web WG members (including all you invited experts :) ) please add yourself to the Doodle for next year's f2f meeting: http://doodle.com/3cfvrfqr6n9cgdzs
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cwebber2 hello
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cwebber2 btw, out of curiosity
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cwebber2 has anyone considered playing with a peer to peer version of as-close-to-the-version-of-this-protocol-as-we-can-define (the only problem might be on object ids, maybe?) that works over something like telehash?
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cwebber2 just a side thought
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