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# 21:26 AnnB (sorry it comes through plain text so garbled)
# 21:27 AnnB also, in meeting Tuesday, I asked what should the IG focus be, right now ...
# 21:28 AnnB someone (Evan?) said, make a 'use case check list' .. put our requirements in list format
# 21:28 AnnB I need to better understand that
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# 21:33 tantek AnnB - yes Evan said that as a summary request for each use-case. I disagreed strongly.
# 21:33 tantek I don't think checklists are useful when doing research like that - because checklists tend to be more theoretical - unbound to specific needs.
# 21:34 tantek Better (as discussed on the call) is to provide tweetable summary user-stories
# 21:34 AnnB I guess I need to re-read the IRC log
# 21:34 tantek similar to the what SWAT0 has at the very top
# 21:34 AnnB right, I remember that bit
# 21:34 tantek and very easily / quickly readable *brief* summary of *specific* steps taken by people
# 21:35 tantek a use-case summary needs all of those: short/brief, *ordered* series of *specific* *actions* taken by *users* in the use-case.
# 21:35 AnnB I thought I understood that whole discussion, but now, to put it into practice, I found myself unclear
# 21:36 tantek hence the specific *good* example of the SWAT0 summary at the top of its page
# 21:36 tantek every other use-case summary should be measured against that
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# 21:39 AnnB which part of that do you describe as "tweetable" short? the top steps 1-6?
# 21:45 tantek note the linked post from the top of that summary
# 21:46 Loqi @t :: we (@daveman692 @evanpro + I) just came up with a #fsws Social Web Acid Test (SWAT) v0 draft. full description, ... http://ttk.me/t46o3
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# 22:04 AnnB very succinct, Tantek
# 22:04 AnnB verging on inscrutable
# 22:05 tantek AnnB - and that's the point, if a use-case isn't distillable down to a summary of steps that's tweetable, it's too complex a use-case, pursue simpler use-cases first
# 22:05 AnnB yer the bees knees, T
# 22:07 AnnB (I had to go look up origins of that phrase .. similar to "cat's meow" or "cat's pajamas" ... hehe)
# 22:09 tantek AnnB - feel free to challeng the IG with both that statement "it's too complex a use-case, pursue simpler use-cases first" and "a use-case summary needs all of those: short/brief, *ordered* series of *specific* *actions* taken by *users* in the use-case."
# 22:11 AnnB my plan is to take one of the existing use cases / scenario -- and try to "tweet-ify" it myself
# 22:11 AnnB then, use that experience as example
# 22:11 AnnB was just going to SocIG profile scenarios page .. but might actually have to go for fast walk in sun first!
# 22:12 tantek AnnB I suggest attempting with what you think is the *simplest* use-case that the IG has documented so far.
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