#social 2015-01-29

2015-01-29 UTC
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aaronpk just booked my flights to the F2F meeting!
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tantek aaronpk++ yeah!
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Loqi aaronpk has 676 karma
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tantek reminder all: please add yourself to https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-03-17#Participation if you plan on participating in the March f2f
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AnnB I'd appreciate it if someone would give me guidance per my mail http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-socialweb/2015Jan/0083.html
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AnnB (sorry it comes through plain text so garbled)
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AnnB see attachment
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AnnB also, in meeting Tuesday, I asked what should the IG focus be, right now ...
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AnnB someone (Evan?) said, make a 'use case check list' .. put our requirements in list format
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AnnB I need to better understand that
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tantek AnnB - yes Evan said that as a summary request for each use-case. I disagreed strongly.
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tantek I don't think checklists are useful when doing research like that - because checklists tend to be more theoretical - unbound to specific needs.
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tantek Better (as discussed on the call) is to provide tweetable summary user-stories
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AnnB I guess I need to re-read the IRC log
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tantek similar to the what SWAT0 has at the very top
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AnnB right, I remember that bit
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tantek and very easily / quickly readable *brief* summary of *specific* steps taken by people
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tantek that's the key
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tantek a use-case summary needs all of those: short/brief, *ordered* series of *specific* *actions* taken by *users* in the use-case.
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AnnB I thought I understood that whole discussion, but now, to put it into practice, I found myself unclear
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tantek hence the specific *good* example of the SWAT0 summary at the top of its page
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tantek every other use-case summary should be measured against that
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tantek http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/federatedsocialweb/wiki/SWAT0#The_use_case
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AnnB which part of that do you describe as "tweetable" short? the top steps 1-6?
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tantek note the linked post from the top of that summary
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tantek slightly longer than tweetable originally: https://twitter.com/t/status/18872957522
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Loqi @t :: we (@daveman692 @evanpro + I) just came up with a #fsws Social Web Acid Test (SWAT) v0 draft. full description, ... http://ttk.me/t46o3
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tantek let me see if I can shorten it even further
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tantek got it
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tantek AnnB here you go: https://twitter.com/t/status/560921112767242241
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Loqi @t :: SWAT0 A posts+tags mobile photo of B B photo notified C(follows A) sees it; replies A&B comment notified Prev: http://tantek.com/2015/029/t1/swat0-posts-tags-mobile-photo-comment
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AnnB very succinct, Tantek
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AnnB verging on inscrutable
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AnnB but, OK
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tantek AnnB - and that's the point, if a use-case isn't distillable down to a summary of steps that's tweetable, it's too complex a use-case, pursue simpler use-cases first
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AnnB yer the bees knees, T
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AnnB (I had to go look up origins of that phrase .. similar to "cat's meow" or "cat's pajamas" ... hehe)
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tantek AnnB - feel free to challeng the IG with both that statement "it's too complex a use-case, pursue simpler use-cases first" and "a use-case summary needs all of those: short/brief, *ordered* series of *specific* *actions* taken by *users* in the use-case."
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AnnB my plan is to take one of the existing use cases / scenario -- and try to "tweet-ify" it myself
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AnnB then, use that experience as example
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AnnB was just going to SocIG profile scenarios page .. but might actually have to go for fast walk in sun first!
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tantek AnnB I suggest attempting with what you think is the *simplest* use-case that the IG has documented so far.
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AnnB ok
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