#social 2015-06-11

2015-06-11 UTC
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ben_thatmustbeme probably should not flood git with suggestions of edits to git just yet
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ben_thatmustbeme but i think there are a lot of spots AS2 spec can be trimmed
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ben_thatmustbeme also, I don't know that i will be able to make the meeting next week
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ben_thatmustbeme new co-worker starting that day
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melvster is the wg going to be rechartered?
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melvster or have the charter amended?
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melvster or both?
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melvster there was something mentioned in the telecon about changing the license?
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ben_thatmustbeme melvster: just the license change as that is a much simpler change and less likely to have any issues.
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ben_thatmustbeme there were other ideas of things to change floated, but it looks like we will only be doing the license change
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melvster ben_thatmustbeme: thanks
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melvster http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/02/estonia/
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melvster great articles on how estonia is using identity
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melvster to unleash a whole new world of online services
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melvster this is the same technology used in SoLiD
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melvster or very similar
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AnnB melvster, very interesting article about Estonia's digital government!
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melvster AnnB: yes, I enjoyed it, finland will be adopting it next, and liberland :)
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AnnB very neat
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AnnB what's intriguing is that this will be much easier for small countries
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AnnB maybe will help level things?
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AnnB did you mean that they are using Linked Data technologies (similar to SoLiD) as their foundation?
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melvster AnnB: we are using X.509 mainly for authentication right now, same as the estonian cards
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AnnB aha
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melvster tho you can see that with a central identity it opens the doors for many other services
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melvster in the styles of linked data
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melvster the SoLiD platform very much has such things in mind, and hopefully will be compatible
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AnnB in a huge company like Boeing, we of course have a central identity, that's used for all kinds of purposes
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melvster very handy
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melvster AnnB: is it web based or email based?
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AnnB I'm not enough of a security / identity expert to understand it all, but I believe it's largely based on X.509
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AnnB web
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melvster great!
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AnnB we have an internal "web single-sign on" system, that's used to control logons to web-based resources
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AnnB which are most of them, nowadays
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melvster i predict if estonia and finland are having good results with this technology, sweden, norway, denmark, holland may be quick to follow
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AnnB our badges have chips, which are used for building access and part of the computer logon
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melvster AnnB: single sign on is great ... really useful, ive been using it a few years now, and im really happy with it
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AnnB seems likely about those other countries
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melvster ah interesting, yes the estonian cards have chips too
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melvster AnnB: the thing I found amazing was:
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melvster 'Adding the online national census capability cost only the census software, less than €10K, because the infrastructure was already in place'
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melvster for estonia
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melvster compare that with
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melvster the US: The 2010 census cost $13 billion, approximately $42 per capita
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AnnB right; get a good foundation and save money on the rest
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AnnB BUT, in US for example, I wonder how much it would cost to have that level of connectivity everywhere
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melvster true
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AnnB we have vast rural areas that would be expensive to provide good access for
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AnnB same is true for most big countries
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AnnB there already is a digital divide here
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melvster maybe one day affordable internet will be a human right
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AnnB I'd love to see it!
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AnnB it will likely require a younger generation to come to power, who understand that right
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AnnB older coots in power now mostly don't get it
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AnnB even in the eastern part of Washington state -- the rural, agricultural part -- there are big gaps
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AnnB and that's densely populated compared to much of the big "inner" states (Wyoming, Montana, etc)
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AnnB not to mention the developing countries of the world
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