#social 2015-08-05

2015-08-05 UTC
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jasnell Proposed update to Collection semantics: https://github.com/jasnell/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/issues/193#issuecomment-127748852
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aaronpk paging by page number is dangerous
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, especially for high volume, where by the time you read page two, there might be a new item inserted, and now you are getting double entries
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ben_thatmustbeme etc
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aaronpk much better to handle paging by offset referring to specific objects
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ben_thatmustbeme the reddit method as i call it. as thats the frist place i really saw it used :P
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ben_thatmustbeme totalItems may change as well while paging through
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aaronpk paging by page number means the contents of URLs is changing constantly. paging by reference means pages will always have the same things on them
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ben_thatmustbeme aaronpk: (assuming no deletes)
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aaronpk right
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ben_thatmustbeme unless you mean paging by X to Y
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aaronpk here's an example of one of my pages: http://aaronparecki.com/notes?before=2015-07-21-1
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aaronpk since that gets indexed by search engines, I don't have to worry about people finding a page in a search result and then not seeing the content they were expecting
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ben_thatmustbeme maybe take this to that github issue
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ben_thatmustbeme that is the nice thing of just saying "pageOf" you don't depend on page numbers
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jasnell aaronpk: the page numbers in the example are just part of the example
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jasnell the paging model does not depend on page numbers at all
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jasnell that just happens to be how I wrote up the quick examples. The proposal deals more with the separation between the Collection and a CollectionPage
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csarven owl:unionOf ( as:CollectionPage as:Link ) is pretty clear to me.
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KevinMarks the opensocial paging used item number which wasn't ideal. It also had timestamp binding
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