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melvster Next F2F
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melvster 29-30 September 2015 in Sapporo, Japan @ TPAC2015
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melvster should that say november?
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aaronpk http://www.w3.org/2015/10/TPAC/
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ben_thatmustbeme so its october?
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aaronpk apparently
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ben_thatmustbeme updated
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melvster thks
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melvster is there any way of testing the webex connection? previously ive always got a java error, but when i go there now it says the meeting isnt started yet, should I just wait?
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ben_thatmustbeme thanks melvster for pointing that out
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melvster np
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aaronpk do you have a way to dial a phone number? that works too
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melvster yes, i have a phone number, but ive never got to that point
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aaronpk you can just dial the number without using the web thingy
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aaronpk java--
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melvster oh
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ben_thatmustbeme NEW phone number: +1-617-324-0000 There is a meeting number: 642 112 960 The password is still 'socl' (lowercase, easier for mobile). [WebEx]
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melvster so i guess i can use skype?
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melvster cool
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aaronpk if you use the web thingy it has little icons for who's talking and stuff, but that's it
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melvster great, ill try both ways but will call the number if i cant get the web thing working
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melvster excited about progress on AS2 test suite
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csarven melvster GoogleVoice (through Gmail) works for me.
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melvster thanks
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eprodrom Hello all
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ben_thatmustbeme hey
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eprodrom I forget the recipe for declaring presence
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eprodrom Is that it?
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eprodrom Ah right
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aaronpk but i think not until the meeting starts with trackbot?
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aaronpk cause the minutes haven't started yet?
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eprodrom ah
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trackbot Zakim, this will be SOCL
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trackbot Meeting: Social Web Working Group Teleconference
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trackbot Date: 11 August 2015
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aaronpk there we go
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eprodrom ha ha
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sandro thanks ben_thatmustbeme
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cwebber2 can hear
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eprodrom I will scribe
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ben_thatmustbeme I'll scribe
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Arnaud Approval of Minutes of 28 July 2015
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eprodrom Arnaud: first, admin part
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Arnaud https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-07-28-minutes
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eprodrom Arnaud: any objections to approving the minutes?
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jasnell +1 to approving the minutes
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ben_thatmustbeme i have
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csarven I opened.
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tantek re-reviews the minutes
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ben_thatmustbeme +1 to approve
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eprodrom I opened and read
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eprodrom +1
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eprodrom RESOLVED: Approval of Minutes of 28 July 2015
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eprodrom TOPIC: Next F2F meeting
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sandro just added a "Maybe" subheading
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sandro https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-10-29#Participants
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tantek oops I have to update "sched". going to renew that action and work on it for the next two weeks.
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eprodrom Arnaud: sandro has suggested we need to discuss F2F
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ben_thatmustbeme really wishes he could go :*(
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eprodrom Arnaud: next F2F is in October in Japan
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jasnell I will not be attending TPAC.
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eprodrom Arnaud: it is normal to have events around the world for the W3C
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eprodrom Arnaud: but it is a significant travel effort
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jasnell I will attempt to join by phone similar to the Paris meeting
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eprodrom Arnaud: It is a chicken-and-egg issue
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sandro jasnell, please say that on the wiki page
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cwebber2 it is possible, but unlikely, that I will go.
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eprodrom Arnaud: we're not asking for hard commitments but we're looking for some intentions
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eprodrom Arnaud: it's better to have ideas of intentions rather than no idea at all
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eprodrom Arnaud: TPAC requires registration
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eprodrom Arnaud: so we have to do both (wiki and TPAC registration)
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melvster FYI: at TPAC 2012, halloween (Oct 31) was an issue for some US folks with families ...
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KevinMarks present+ kevinmarks
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eprodrom Arnaud: There is a cost associated with participating at TPAC (~$85/day)
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eprodrom Arnaud: it includes a big conference experience (food, space, etc.)
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ben_thatmustbeme $85 is if you get your tickets in before a certain date
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rhiaro I will go if I can rustle up funding :)
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rhiaro is on IRC only today, btw
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eprodrom Arnaud: and a good opportunity to cross-pollinate
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tantek q+ to note that last time we met at TPAC it was a VERY productive meeting.
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ben_thatmustbeme it costs more if you register too late
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sandro melvster, it looks like it's feasible to get back in time, given Date Line
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eprodrom q+
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tsyesika_ rhiaro: you having issues with hangouts or just not calling?
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Zakim tantek, you wanted to note that last time we met at TPAC it was a VERY productive meeting.
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eprodrom tantek: We didn't get all meet in Paris, didn't get everyone in Cambridge
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rhiaro tysesika_: in transit, not consistant phone signal to dial in
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eprodrom tantek: the last time we met at TPAC in Santa Clara, it was hugely successful
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eprodrom tantek: we made a lot of progress
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ben_thatmustbeme whoever just joined, is pretty noisy
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KevinMarks realised I was playing "wish you were here" from the cafe - sorry
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eprodrom tantek: we also had a lot of participation from TPAC attendees who wouldn't have come just for a Social Web meeting
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eprodrom tantek: if there's one WG F2F, this is the one to make
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KevinMarks where is TPAC this time?
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rhiaro F2F in Paris was productive, too
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Arnaud ack eprodrom
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ben_thatmustbeme KevinMarks, Sapporo JP
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KevinMarks so $85 a day is trivial compared to travel then
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Arnaud KevinMarks, indeed
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tantek KevinMarks: see https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-10-29 and yes, travel will be an expense, as it is for everyone else who traveled to Santa Clara who wasn't in the bay area
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KevinMarks if I have an expense account for travel, I'll go… TPAC is very good
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eprodrom eprodrom: could we have better attendance in the USA around the same time period?
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ben_thatmustbeme there are already people going to JP / have flights
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ben_thatmustbeme so changing now would probably be bad
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eprodrom Arnaud: we have a commitment to do this
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eprodrom Arnaud: we have an 8-week period required for any travel
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ben_thatmustbeme I think AnnB has expressed her intention of going
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tantek also if you're a maybe, please indicate what might help convince you to go
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tantek but definitely add yourself anyway as a Maybe if that's what you are: https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-10-29#Maybe
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eprodrom Arnaud: if there's a 90% chance you'll be there, please note it
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eprodrom Arnaud: Ann has asked if people in the WG would meet with the IG in the same time period next week
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eprodrom TOPIC: Activity Streams 2.0
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cwebber2 it looks like it'll be $2k for the flights alone, not to mention other costs
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cwebber2 I can't make TPAC
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eprodrom TOPIC: Raised issues for AS 2.0
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tantek looks for a regrets section
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eprodrom Arnaud: There are two issues that have been raised for AS 2.0
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eprodrom Arnaud: one is related to microformats
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csarven q+
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tantek cwebber2, can you add yourself to https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-10-29#Regrets ?
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eprodrom Arnaud: https://www.w3.org/Social/track/issues/44
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eprodrom Arnaud: it's understood that these examples are only informative, and there's an open action to fix them
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tantek indeed, and ben_thatmustbeme continues to do work to fix more, and create pull requests accordingly. progress keeps being made.
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eprodrom q+
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cwebber2 tantek: will do, thanks!
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tantek I also see no reason to re-open the issue
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ben_thatmustbeme rhiaro: has been working on a PR for more too
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eprodrom csarven: Previous resolutions were about trying to improve the state of microformats in the doc
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eprodrom csarven: What made it into the document didn't reflect the action
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cwebber2 tantek: I can do remote participation though, so I'll add myself there!
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eprodrom csarven: The microformat examples are quite draft
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eprodrom csarven: Whether the AS vocabulary should talk about any except AS is an question
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eprodrom csarven: all the other examples are AS
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eprodrom csarven: the microformats examples don't map closely
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csarven ACTION-26
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trackbot ACTION-26 -- Tantek Çelik to Review microformats examples in AS2.0 specs -- due 2015-03-17 -- CLOSED
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trackbot http://www.w3.org/Social/track/actions/26
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eprodrom Arnaud: The issue title and the problem are misaligned
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ben_thatmustbeme q+ to discuss ISSUE-45 to try to bring up misaligned MF2
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eprodrom Arnaud: The issue is that there is a misalignment for the mf and AS 2.0 examples
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eprodrom Arnaud: we should consider different solutions
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tantek eprodrom: my understanding of why we have the microformats examples in the document, for those people that are familiar with microformats, they should be able to look at both microformats examples and AS2 other syntaxes, and then understand this is how I express this idiom in AS2
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tantek eprodrom: I think that is a good purpose
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tantek eprodrom: there are two downsides to it, if we don't have up to date microformats examples, it may be counter productive
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tantek eprodrom: the other is that they do not map 1:1
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tantek eprodrom: I wonder if there is a way for us to solve this problem, by taking the microformats examples out to an external note or extra support. the other thing is more work on the microformats examples.
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eprodrom tantek, thanks
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KevinMarks are the other examples any better?
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Arnaud ack ben_thatmustbeme
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Zakim ben_thatmustbeme, you wanted to discuss ISSUE-45 to try to bring up misaligned MF2
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tantek eprodrom: I'm not sure we have the organizational will to get the microformats examples up to snuff to make it worthwhile
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tantek Issue 45
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trackbot issue-45 -- Conflicts between json-ld and mf2 examples -- raised
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trackbot http://www.w3.org/Social/track/issues/45
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csarven KevinMarks Yes, JSON-LD, Turtle, RDFa are interchangeable. I havan't looked at Microdata
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eprodrom ben_thatmustbeme: when I updated the examples, I was putting in the best practices for the community at large right now
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KevinMarks they are in principle interchangeable; are they in practice?
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csarven KevinMarks Visit my site.
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KevinMarks have you parsed them all into a uniform form and compared them?
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csarven Yes.
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csarven You should too
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KevinMarks (the ones in the document)
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csarven Have you did that for microformats?
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eprodrom ben_thatmustbeme: do the align completely? No. But that's not the purpose.
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csarven Have you seen the state of mf? Compare that to the rest.
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eprodrom Arnaud: ben_thatmustbeme touched on issue 45.
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eprodrom Arnaud: let's close issue 44 in favour of issue 45
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csarven mf examples would not be ready for CR
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eprodrom Arnaud: one possibility is that we remove the examples
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csarven Has to go through the mf process.
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tantek csarven: examples don't block CR - they are informative
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csarven mf examples are not *about* AS
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csarven doesn't want to live in this planet anymore.
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eprodrom ha ha
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Arnaud PROPOSAL: Close ISSUE-44 as duplicative, open ISSUE-45
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KevinMarks csarven: vocabulary versus syntax
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tantek csarven not really a joking matter.
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KevinMarks you can represent any vocab in mf2
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csarven KevinMarks mf is a package. mixes vocab and versus
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eprodrom csarven: I disagree that 44 and 45 are related
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eprodrom csarven: 45 talks about changing the examples to meet the requirements of mf
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KevinMarks if you want an example of representing arbitrary vocab in mf2, see http://www.kevinmarks.com/microformatschema.html
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eprodrom csarven: these are different issues
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tantek KevinMarks, if anything your post about that demonstrates that arbitrary vocabs are not a good pattern to adopt.
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KevinMarks I think it does, yes, but csarven is strawmanning about process
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eprodrom csarven: we can at least have the documentation for why we came up with the examples
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eprodrom Arnaud: issues are about stating a problem, not suggesting a solution
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tantek hey csarven, eprodrom gave reasons for it already, all minuted above.
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ben_thatmustbeme point of order, we are not voting on "Closing" any issue, but rather "Rejecting"
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tantek it's a bit out of order to say "haven't heard any reasons" when such reasons were spoken on the telcon and minuted
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tantek agreed ben_thatmustbeme - reject reopening
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tantek eprodrom: my suggestion is that we amend the text of issue 45 as you suggested Arnaud
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csarven Arnaud++
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Loqi Arnaud has 21 karma
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csarven Arnaud I have. Please read the email.
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eprodrom Arnaud: we are 35 minutes into the call, I'm going to overrule and not open issue 44
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csarven Then why do you state that I should?
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eprodrom Arnaud: we will defer to issue 45
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csarven You've overruled. Lets move on
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csarven As I've stated. ACTION-26 is incomplete.
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Arnaud RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-44 as duplicative, open ISSUE-45
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csarven That's "new" information.
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cwebber2 amy is here via text, and I will speak yes
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tantek q?
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rhiaro cwebber2++
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eprodrom TOPIC: Publish AS 2.0 as a Candidate Recommendation
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eprodrom Arnaud: after consultation with jasnell I think we should take AS 2.0 to CR to move the process along
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eprodrom q+
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eprodrom q-
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eprodrom Arnaud: I'd like to ask jasnell where we are with the spec
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eprodrom jasnell: The core spec has not changed much at all
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eprodrom jasnell: except to keep it up-to-date with vocabulary
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eprodrom jasnell: it is stable
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eprodrom jasnell: no open issues for core
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eprodrom jasnell: two major issues for vocabulary
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ben_thatmustbeme is anyone else getting choppy audio for jasnell?
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ben_thatmustbeme might be just me
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aaronpk sounds fine to me
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eprodrom jasnell: issue 193, related to changes to the collection paging model
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jasnell https://github.com/jasnell/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/pull/191
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ben_thatmustbeme cleared up, just connection here then
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jasnell https://github.com/jasnell/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/pull/193
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eprodrom jasnell: also collection properties
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eprodrom Arnaud: harry sent an email about the requirements to go to CR
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eprodrom Arnaud: one requirement is to have our issues closed
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eprodrom Arnaud: some issues in Tracker are not closed
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eprodrom eprodrom: do we need to have interoperable implementations for CR?
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jasnell btw... in terms of implementation, http://github.com/jasnell/activitystrea.ms is up to date to the current editor's draft
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eprodrom Arnaud: no, CR means that we are showing to the world and asking for implementations
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sandro q+ to ask about implementations
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eprodrom Arnaud: we do need to have a test suite
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Zakim sandro, you wanted to ask about implementations
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eprodrom Arnaud: once the spec is frozen for CR, we can move on to test suite
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eprodrom sandro: we should know how long the CR period will be
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sandro sandro: So who is planning to implement? When? And will it be complete
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eprodrom eprodrom: pump.io will implement
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cwebber2 yes
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sandro eprodrom: pump.io wont be consuming until we know what the API looks like
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eprodrom Arnaud: who else is planning to implement
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eprodrom sandro, thanks, true
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tantek I have AS1/Atom on my site tantek.com. No intention to implement AS2 in its current form.
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eprodrom melvster: we will consider demonstration implementations
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KevinMarks we should contact large-scale users of AS1 to see if they are interested in implementing
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rhiaro I plan to experiment with AS2 for my site, small scale
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eprodrom Arnaud: what are the exit criteria and what is the time frame?
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eprodrom Arnaud: one is the expiration of the working group
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eprodrom Arnaud: another is having two implementations
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KevinMarks gnip, echo et al
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eprodrom Arnaud: In practice, it's a minimum of two
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eprodrom Arnaud: But it should be more
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tantek KevinMarks - do you have a wiki page documenting such "large-scale users of AS1" with citations?
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eprodrom Arnaud: we have had this case before and chose not to go forward
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tantek q+ to note that per process we have to have zero open issues, if they're trivial, then that trivial work needs to be done to propose + drive resolutions BEFORE proposing going to CR. but there's a bigger elephant in the room, which is that AS2 and modern interoperable publishing practices continue to diverge. It's VERY BAD for a spec for it and modern practices to diverge, and we need to acknowledge that.
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eprodrom Arnaud: let's move on
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Arnaud ack tantek
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Zakim tantek, you wanted to note that per process we have to have zero open issues, if they're trivial, then that trivial work needs to be done to propose + drive resolutions BEFORE
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Zakim ... proposing going to CR. but there's a bigger elephant in the room, which is that AS2 and modern interoperable publishing practices continue to diverge. It's VERY BAD for a spec
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Zakim ... for it and modern practices to diverge, and we need to acknowledge that.
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eprodrom tantek: we have to hit 0 issues for the spec
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eprodrom tantek: if we have trivial issues, we have to wrap them up
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eprodrom tantek: I feel that AS 2.0 and modern publishing and consuming practices on the web have continued to diverge
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eprodrom tantek: that's bad for any spec
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eprodrom tantek: if it doesn't reflect practice, then it's a bad direction
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eprodrom tantek: standards work best when they reflect current practice
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csarven Define "modern publishing and consuming practices"
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eprodrom Arnaud: we should discuss and consider for next call
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tantek csarven - people actually publishing content on the social web, not just in silos
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aaronpk I hear that as saying standards should be descriptive rather than prescriptive
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eprodrom TOPIC: Social Web API
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ben_thatmustbeme this is a pretty good doc amy made
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ben_thatmustbeme rhiaro++
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eprodrom Arnaud: cwebber to discuss API requirements created by rhiaro
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cwebber2 https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/Social_API/Requirements
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KevinMarks echoplatform.com and http://support.gnip.com/apis/consuming_streaming_data.html both translate various silos into AS1 JSON
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eprodrom cwebber2: Amy broke down the user stories into a structured data format
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tantek KevinMarks - rather than listing individual examples, can you please add them to a AS1 JSON implementations page?
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csarven tantek Are you suggesting that AS2 leans on the silo-practice?
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eprodrom cwebber2: with color-coded marks
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eprodrom cwebber2: we're thinking of using this document as a bridge
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tantek rhiaro++ for https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/Social_API/Requirements
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eprodrom cwebber2: since it works more or less like a todo list
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tantek cwebber2++ for walking us through https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/Social_API/Requirements - good way to attempt to focus
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ben_thatmustbeme cwebber2++ for presenting that
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eprodrom cwebber2: aaronpk, rhiaro and cwebber2 will work on implementations
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KevinMarks there is a mismatch between https://www.w3.org/wiki/Activity_Streams#Implementations and https://www.w3.org/wiki/Activity_Streams/Examples
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eprodrom cwebber2: this will help us compare where specs are in sync or not
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KevinMarks we should audit https://www.w3.org/wiki/Activity_Streams#Implementations to see if any examples exist
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eprodrom cwebber2: is anyone else interested in implementations
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eprodrom cwebber2: both aaronpk and rhiaro are re-engineering their sites
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Arnaud ack aaronpk
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eprodrom jasnell: if you're looking at the document, there's different color-coding
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jasnell eprodrom: that's not me :-)
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jasnell that's aaron
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eprodrom Oh crap
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eprodrom Thanks
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eprodrom aaronpk: if you're looking at the document, there's different color-coding
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eprodrom aaronpk: and we can use those color-codes to break down the effort in the integration
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ben_thatmustbeme cwebber2, i am trying to keep my site up to date as much as possible when i have time
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cwebber2 ben_thatmustbeme: maybe say that on the call?
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tantek q?
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jasnell o/
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eprodrom ben_thatmustbeme: I will be working on SWAT0
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eprodrom Arnaud: any other comments?
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melvster FYI: https://github.com/w3c-social/social-ucr
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cwebber2 eprodrom: are these all approved user stories, I thought we had some other user stories that were not on here
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cwebber2 rhiaro^^
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jasnell before we close, just a reminder to everyone: I need input on github issues #191 and #193 as mentioned earlier (https://github.com/jasnell/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/issues/193, https://github.com/jasnell/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/issues/191)
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aaronpk https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/Social_API/User_stories#Approved_user_stories
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rhiaro THey're the ones .. yeah, there ^
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cwebber2 :)
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ben_thatmustbeme these are the only approved ones
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rhiaro I will be happy to keep this Req doc up to date as more user stories are approved, using the same process
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rhiaro if people are agreeing with the results
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aaronpk oh it looks like we approved *only* the +1 ones https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-05-12-minutes#approve-all-plus-one-user-stories
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eprodrom ben_thatmustbeme: yes, we only approved ones that were unanimous
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rhiaro We all need to work with the IG to approve more though
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ben_thatmustbeme Arnaud++
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rhiaro Everyone who -1d a story has a responsibility to respond to requests from the IG, I think
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eprodrom ben_thatmustbeme: we tried to approve 1/0 ones, but couldn't get consensus
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tantek eprodrom++ for scribing!
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eprodrom Arnaud: closing, will have next meeting in two weeks
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cwebber2 eprodrom++
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tantek Arnaud++ for chairing
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Arnaud trackbot, end meeting
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trackbot Zakim, list attendees
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Zakim sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
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cwebber2 Arnaud++ for chairing
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cwebber2 and!
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cwebber2 rhiaro++ for the great document
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ben_thatmustbeme eprodrom++
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ben_thatmustbeme rhiaro++
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ben_thatmustbeme try to capture some of that karma :)
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aaronpk internet points are important
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jasnell https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-socialweb/2015Aug/0037.html
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