aaronpkeprodrom: we spoke yesterday about process a little about AS2, and we discussed editors have discretion to deal with issues, and if there is not a willingness to defer to the editor then we'd take it to a group proposal and resolution
rhiaroq+ to say Cooperating in creating new individual issues if multiple crop up in a single thread, and staying on topic. If a new thought occurs to you whilst writing a reply... you are empowered to stop typing, and open a new issue instead.
Zakimrhiaro, you wanted to say Cooperating in creating new individual issues if multiple crop up in a single thread, and staying on topic. If a new thought occurs to you whilst writing
tantekq+ to request: put burden/responsibility on those posting multi-issues to split them out to separate issues if they think the additional issues are worth being discussed.
aaronpkArnaud: in my opinion it's the lack of proces that leads to this kind of thing, the idea that the ?? should be at risk by playing with access rights is really wrong
Zakimtantek, you wanted to request: put burden/responsibility on those posting multi-issues to split them out to separate issues if they think the additional issues are worth being
aaronpktantek: when some of these multi-issue threads start happening, when the editor responds to the original issue, i'd like to make it explicitly clear that if there are tangential issues it's the burden/responsibility of the person who raised them to make them new issues
aaronpkbengo: I started an issue that got out of hand on webmention, but because some of the work items are related to the same thing but happening independently, it's tempting to jump in on a broader issue. especially as federation will start to be talked about, would it be beneficial to have topical repos separate from an individual spec so that there's a place for this converation
aaronpk... at the very least i feel like there may be benefit to having a repo for federation protocol separate from actiivtypump so that there's a separate place
aaronpktantek: the issue ben is bringing up is that the github repos allow anyone on github to file an issue/comment, and if you're not a WG member or participant we say you cant' participate in the telcons and meetings, so there's a little asymmetry going on there. we should address what's the policy for if you're not a member of the WG
aaronpkcwebber2: sometimes an editor wants to do things in a specific place and then someone says i raised it in this other venu and you didn't respond
aaronpktantek: one of the antipatterns we saw was that an editor closed an issue because the original topic was adddressed and then someone else reopened it because an unrelated topic in the thread was not addressed, do we have enough language here to address that?
aaronpkArnaud: this is something the whole WG should be made aware of, so we should make a point of going over this on the next telcon or something to make sure everyone is aware
aaronpk... what i want to do is to make a call similar to the social web protocols document, if people know of any issues that would be a FPWD blocker, to file them by the next telcon
aaronpk... with the intent that I will try to address those issues so that we can take it to FPWD, perhaps even to take both the protocols documetn and this at the same time
aaronpkrhiaro: it's useful to go for something where type is implied through properties (microformats) to something with specific types (activitystreams)
aaronpktantek: James said it's useful even outside of microforamts, because the type property in AS is optional, so if you want to build a system that is dependent on type, you could use it to fill in that type
aaronpk... i for one would rather spend the next 10 minutes using my brain or somehow trying to revive it so i'm not sure trying to dig into additional issues is the best use of the next 10 minutes
ZakimAs of this point the attendees have been Arnaud, csarven, rhiaro, aaronpk, shanehudson, sandro, elf-pavlik, kevinmarks, wilkie, eprodrom, jasnell, ben_thatmustbeme, cwebber,
RRSAgentACTION: eprodrom to Continue developing federation aspects of existing candidate specs (ActivityPump, SoLiD, Micropub/IndieWeb building blocks) and in parallel Evan will curate requirements from user stories and other federation protocol efforts, with documented reasons for non-requirements [2]
jasnelltantek: I added a privacy considerations section. I took a few liberties with it to make it a strong default position. please take a look and provide feedback
jasnellok. the language I added basically says, (a) Yes, AS2 can contain private data, (b) implementations should openly document what private data they use and why and who they share that with, (c) implementations should limit what data they include in AS2 unless the user consents, (d) implementations should limit what data they store/share unless the user consents. But also indicate that "consent" can be implied if the use is publicly documented and
jasnellI could potentially include something in there about encryption but there are no really special ways to encrypt JSON other than the usual mechanisms
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aaronpk bengo: I started an issue that got out of hand on webmention, but because some of the work items are related to the same thing but happening independently, it's tempting to jump in on a broader issue. especially as federation will start to be talked about, would it be beneficial to have topical repos separate from an individual spec so that there's a place for this converation
tantek sandro I filed https://github.com/w3c-social/post-type-discovery/issues/4 for you - I hope that captures your question.
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ben_thatmustbeme !tell sandro you probably want to update https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg#Harry
jasnell ok. the language I added basically says, (a) Yes, AS2 can contain private data, (b) implementations should openly document what private data they use and why and who they share that with, (c) implementations should limit what data they include in AS2 unless the user consents, (d) implementations should limit what data they store/share unless the user consents. But also indicate that "consent" can be implied if the use is publicly documented and