#social 2016-02-10

2016-02-10 UTC
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jtilles If I have a few questions about Activity Streams 2, is this an appropriate place to ask them?
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jtilles Or should I be I stick to public-socialweb-comments@w3.org and/or http://groups.google.com/group/activity-streams ?
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aaronpk I don't think the google group has had any activity in a while
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jtilles er, I meant to write “… should I be sticking to …”
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jtilles aaronpk I noticed =)
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aaronpk you're welcome to ask in here and someone will answer if they can
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jtilles ok, thanks!
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jtilles First: is there any semantic difference between an AS2 object having a `url` attribute of "http://example.org" and an attribute of `{"type": "Link", "href": "http://example.org", "rel": "self"}`?
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ben_thatmustbeme I suppose it would be the same
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ben_thatmustbeme jasnell_: ?
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ben_thatmustbeme actually, i suppose it would depend on if thats the only object in the AS2 you fetched or not, doesn't rel only ever refer to a relation to the page as a whole?
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jasnell_ what's up
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ben_thatmustbeme see jtilles question
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jasnell_ actually just saw the question... so semantically yes there's a difference. {"url": "http://example.org"} is a description of the object itself. It's saying, "this is an object with this url". {"type": "Link", "href": "http://example.org"} is saying, "this is a reference to something at http://example.org". The former is describing the object, the latter is describing a link to the object
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ben_thatmustbeme "is there any semantic difference between an AS2 object having a `url` attribute of "http://example.org" and an attribute of `{"type": "Link", "href": "http://example.org", "rel": "self"}`?"
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jasnell_ it's similar in nature to the difference between <html><head><title>Foo</title></head><body></body></html> and <a href="http://link.to.foo">Foo</a>
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ben_thatmustbeme i had a question come up, I'm guessing in AS2 rel: is scoped only to the object its in not the entire document like html
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jtilles jasnell_ first, thanks for helping out! I noticed that you didn't include `"rel": "self"` in your explanation. Was that a minor typo, or did you miss its presence in my question?
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jtilles I mean, it makes sense to me that `{"url": "http://example.org"}` and `{"url": {"type": "Link", "href": "http://example.org"}}` aren't necessarily the same
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jtilles but I thought that `{"url": "http://example.org"}` and `{"url": {"type": "Link", "href": "http://example.org", "rel": "self"}}` *could* be equivalent.
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jtilles in case it’s helpful to know why this question of equivalence came up: at my job we'd like to store AS2 activities in Elasticsearch, but (as far as I can tell) Elasticsearch can't cope with deal with union types.
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