#social 2016-09-28

2016-09-28 UTC
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Loqi Rhiaro made 1 edit to [[Socialwg/2016-09-23-minutes]] https://www.w3.org/wiki/index.php?diff=100234&oldid=0
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Loqi Aaronpk made 1 edit to [[Socialwg/2016-10-04]] https://www.w3.org/wiki/index.php?diff=100260&oldid=100250
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cwebber2 hello, *
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cwebber2 I'm not totally sure who I should email for wide review. I could copy the recipients of the previous emails Sandro had sent out
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cwebber2 I know what to do for i18n, but not sure what the instructions are for security / a11y
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cwebber2 rhiaro: do you know?
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rhiaro I need to figure that out too. Was planning to copy what sandro has already done..
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cwebber2 hi rhiaro
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cwebber2 ha :)
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cwebber2 well, I sent my stuff to the i18n group
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cwebber2 now doing security and a11y.....
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cwebber2 I'm at the google campus thing today btw, rhiaro
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cwebber2 nice place!
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rhiaro Woo!
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cwebber2 better than hunching over my laptop at the airbnb, which is what I did all day yesterday trying to get this ready
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cwebber2 felt like I was wasting my time in london
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cwebber2 but, at least I got out this time
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rhiaro You *use* Google's resources like a boss
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cwebber2 :)
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rhiaro Take that, centralisation :)
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cwebber2 ha
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cwebber2 oh
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cwebber2 the privacy WG is separate I guess
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cwebber2 so i should probably email that one separately :)
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rhiaro oh... it is?
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cwebber2 I dunno, sandro emailed them separately
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cwebber2 when he sent out the previous emails?
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cwebber2 http://www.w3.org/Privacy/ looks separate
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rhiaro okie dokie
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cwebber2 I guess that's right, both security and privacy are as distinct and yet intertwined as authorization and authentication are, to supply another intermingled thing I just checked all the terms of in my spec ;)
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cwebber2 you can have a highly secure system to violate everyone's privacy :)
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cwebber2 though I'm not sure you can have the reverse!
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cwebber2 wait rhiaro, are we supposed to submit these ourselves
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cwebber2 or do you do them on our behalf?
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cwebber2 I don't remember
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cwebber2 I feel like this was discussed, but I can't remember the conclusion
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rhiaro I don't think it matters
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cwebber2 rhiaro: I rolled the security and privacy stuff into the same email
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cwebber2 but anyway, done!
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cwebber2 horizontal review requests sent
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cwebber2 now for wide review requests..
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aaronpk rhiaro: csarven: how did you get the reference to social-web-protocols to have the display text "Social Web Protocols"? When I add [[social-web-protocols]] it doesn't use the nice display name.
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csarven aaronpk: We are not using respec.
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aaronpk oh
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aaronpk that would explain it
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aaronpk hrm no mention in https://github.com/w3c/respec/wiki/User's-Guide#references
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aaronpk goes to #pubrules
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aaronpk cwebber2: yours does it right too, but I can't find the source doc for activitypub
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csarven Maybe it is a bit like mediawiki markup? Tried [[url-like-thing | human-readable]] or vice-versa
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csarven ?
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aaronpk no luck
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aaronpk 0 issues on webmention \o/
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rhiaro aaronpk: Does reading the accompanying SWP section help with the meaning of 'courteous' or is that still a confusing word to use there?
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aaronpk the SWP section is great
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rhiaro also feel free to use that fragment link in WM if you need to
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aaronpk I think "courteous" still feels a little vague
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rhiaro hmm
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aaronpk maybe something more like telling people to read that section of SWP for recommendations?
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aaronpk it also feels odd because you use the term "ought to"
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aaronpk presumably to avoid using "SHOULD"
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rhiaro heh, yeah
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aaronpk you could change it to something like "Please see the Discovery section of Social Web Protocols for recommendations on ..."
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rhiaro "[Social Web Protocols] provides recommendations on how to carry out discovery, with consideration to servers which may be unaware of this protocol" ?
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aaronpk sure
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rhiaro k updated
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cwebber2 aaronpk: I think I just did an anchor tag :)
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aaronpk old skool
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cwebber2 aaronpk: https://github.com/w3c-social/activitypub/blob/gh-pages/index.html#L147 not sure if that's doing it right or not
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cwebber2 but there it is!
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aaronpk did you also add it to the references section manually then?
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aaronpk oh it's not in the references :)
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cwebber2 failboat
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aaronpk so probably "bibref" is not appropriate
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cwebber2 probably
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cwebber2 aaronpk: I think I snarfed from LDN
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cwebber2 still getting to know all this markup
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cwebber2 respec and etc that is
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aaronpk which spec was it that had the security/privacy questionnaire answered inline?
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cwebber2 aaronpk: LDN, and then I snarfed that too ;)
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aaronpk I thought it was tantek's but I don't see it there
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cwebber2 figuring out what to do about marking up standards http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/234/739/fa5.jpg
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aaronpk most of the security and privacy questions seem to assume this is being answered in the context of being a browser
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rhiaro aaronpk: yeah that's what I thought
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aaronpk cwebber2: your answer to "How should this specification work in the context of a user agent’s "incognito" mode?" seems like a non-answer
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aaronpk I think they were actually asking for a description of *how* it works
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aaronpk what do you think of this for micropub (probably can do something similar for activitypub):
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aaronpk > If the user agent is a Micropub client, the client should "forget" any access tokens and Micropub endpoints associated with the user's browsing session when in "incognito" mode.
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aaronpk rhiaro: csarven: same with LDN
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aaronpk I read that question as "if someone is implementing this spec in a browser, what do they need to consider when implementing the 'incognito' mode"
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aaronpk cwebber2: and for the "persist data to a user’s local device" question, you might want to add something about how the user agent should clear out authentication
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rhiaro oh, I just thought they provided like three options and when the answer is 'makes no difference' it was okay to copypaste. I didn't think about it in terms of implementing it in the browser. I dunno.
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aaronpk think about it from an implementer's perspective
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