cwebber2eprodrom: ok, the big items there are getting websub and activitypub out the door. 6 months is a long time, i feel like we've got a lot of traction right now
cwebber2eprodrom: I think it would not be bad for this group to continue at the same pace it's moving, but let's not in december trying to get implementations of websub. we got our extension, let's try to get to PR much earlier
cwebber2sandro: yeah the main story was getting mastodon to implement activitypub; would be nice to see that sooner rather than later so we can iterate on that
sandroeprodrom: I'm reluctant to have AP make this kind of change to AS. If it's necessary, then we can, but I'd like to be careful about this, and hear from James.
sandroeprodrom: Using the name 'tag' is a tricky, because you also tag a person in a photo, or tag a place, using a tag relationship, so calling this thing a tag might be "tricky"
sandro.. There's another bonus, in that this could solve Content Warning. If you mark a post as Sensitive, then the summary section becomes a Content Warning.
tantekdoesn't matter if the intent is only for authors to specify it. if you put it in a format or protocol, services will use it, as they have been (ab)using sensitive/content warning in their existing UIs
saranix"they'll have to use an extension" -- their usage is unique even amongst this working group, noone else does it the same as them, so I say it SHOULD be an extension for the way they do it
sandrosandro: I think it's a fine extension, but let's help them figure out what happens when it crosses boundaries to systems that don't implemment it. Does it drop the content, or drop the bit?
sandrotantek: To focus on the positive use case cwebber2 expressed of Mastodon folks self-marking posts, as to how folks would expect that to work in a federated system, when the systems have a very different cultures and backgrounds.
sandrocwebber2: I like Evan's suggestion, if there are vocab extensions that don't relate to protocol, we could make them be extensions to AS instead of changes to AP
cwebber2ben_thatmustbeme: when registering IANA, they had concerns about the security concerns section so this is an update to that section and removing one bit
cwebber2ben_thatmustbeme: well I've been experimenting with it, and once it's registered I'd like to bring it to more feed readers as an alternative, and see if I can get the jsonfeed crowd to look at it and experiment with it
cwebber2ben_thatmustbeme: I think they're discovering issues with not having a mimetype, etc. hopefully it'll also add more credence being under w3.org rather than random website, even if it's a note rather than a rec-track spec
cwebber2ben_thatmustbeme: this isn't on rec-track, so it's only going to a note... i could make a test suite or validator, I think kevinmarks already started one
cwebber2sandro: just to clarify, putting it on rec-track would violate the spirit of the extension, but going through the same motions of validator / test suite are good things
cwebber2tantek: I was going to echo what sandro said, the only way we could reasonably handle it beyond an extension is.. the way we saw it around an extension is that clearly we saw implementation around mastodon etc... so I'd want something like that be to be true of JF2 or anything else before we considered an fpwd towards a rec
cwebber2tantek: we should meet the bar of what we generally set for an extension, which is a bit higher bar for this WG but I think that's the bar we've set up for
cwebber2ben_thatmustbeme: I did want to ask... since we're on what's allowed under the extension is one thing that came up in the CG is how to do or modernize webfinger into actual urls and etc to see if everyone could get on the same page...
cwebber2eprodrom: we're in the heat of summer, this is often when people go on vacation and it's tough to get everyone on the same irc schedule. that said we're running pretty lean these days, usually between 5-10 people on the telecon, so again I'd love to get proposals out by september or october time frame rather than slipping into the fall and be under a lot of pressure then
cwebber2ben_thatmustbeme: I would be in favor of going to every other week because I'm in the CG now, which is taking up a lot more time since those go long
cwebber2eprodrom: for me my big concern is that these are working months for us, and if we get to end of october / beginning of november and we're like oh gosh we need to get this out, we'll be under time pressure... that said a lot of what we need is implementations. I would be ok with every other week as long as we feel like we're making progress
rhiaroby the way ben_thatmustbeme, if for some reason the html minutes aren't generated the perl script that generates them is knocking around somewhere (scribe.perl) and can be run locally
Loqi[Leah] I put it in my bio, but just wanted to put it out here, if you're sharing images, video, or audio of storms, could you please CW it? I have pretty bad astraphobia and it would really help me
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cwebber2 tantek: I was going to echo what sandro said, the only way we could reasonably handle it beyond an extension is.. the way we saw it around an extension is that clearly we saw implementation around mastodon etc... so I'd want something like that be to be true of JF2 or anything else before we considered an fpwd towards a rec
sandro Link to resolution: https://www.w3.org/2017/06/27-social-irc.html#T17-52-22
tantek next SWWG telcon agenda up: https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2017-07-11 please add as necessary and note that it's in 2 weeks (not meeting next week)