#social 2017-07-03

2017-07-03 UTC
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ben_thatmustbeme Takyoji, Mastodon had been working to implementing it, and puckipedia has been working on a .Net implementation. But that's all I really know of personally. But I am not super involved in it
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Takyoji It seems the link for reference named "OAuth-Server-Metadata" on ActivityPub is dead. It's moved to: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-discovery-06
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ben_thatmustbeme cwebber2: ^^
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cwebber2 Takyoji: I also have an implementation
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cwebber2 Takyoji: and so does NextCloud
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cwebber2 there's also a PR I haven't merged yet
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cwebber2 and we probably won't get most implementation reports until the test suite up... which is my current work
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cwebber2 Takyoji: re: the link, thanks! could you file an issue?
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Takyoji cwebber2: Absolutely, I shall do so shortly.
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cwebber2 thank you Takyoji :)
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Takyoji I noticed a veeeery subtle syntax issue in Example 16: https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#object-without-create
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Takyoji A comma was forgotten after the assignment for the "id" property, at the end of the line
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Takyoji Is it even worth raising an issue or anything for something so miniscule though? xP
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Takyoji And apparently after "actor" in Example 13 as well
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Takyoji And, well, in Example 11 as well
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Takyoji Here's a pull request of those minor fixes, if it's of any value: https://github.com/w3c/activitypub/pull/238/files
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xmpp-social [ajordan] Takyoji: the bridge isn't moderated. However, it DOES crash when someone on the IRC side sends fancy Unicode :/
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xmpp-social [ajordan] I just restarted it.
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xmpp-social [ajordan] Takyoji: AFAIK the Working Group can't accept PRs from anyone outside the WG because they haven't signed W3C copyright/patent agreements but I can send the same changes for you
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xmpp-social [ajordan] cwebber2: if you merge my PRs they fix a lot of these small problems, including the IETF 404 Takyoji mentioned
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xmpp-social [ajordan] Or alternately if you're comfortable I can ask someone to make me a collaborator and merge them myself?
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xmpp-social [Takyoji] Whichever route is most practical. I don't really claim any sort of intellectual property of anything that I do, for the most part.
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xmpp-social [ajordan] For the record the Unicode issue is filed at https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/issues/210 but I'm hoping to port https://github.com/aaronpk/Slack-IRC-Gateway to XMPP anyway, which should make this a non-issue
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Loqi [strugee] #210 Funky Unicode causes XMPP to disconnect
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xmpp-social [ajordan] Takyoji: in the US copyright is automatic whether you claim it or not
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xmpp-social [ajordan] Personally I think trivial typo fixes like this should be okay, but it's not up to me. Or, AFAIK, any of the WG members
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xmpp-social [ajordan] :/ sorry, I know it's annoying and we really appreciate you bringing up problems like this one
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puckipedia I just added uploadMedia support to Kroeg ... though, there's one issue I can see with it
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puckipedia ... how do I upload more than one image?
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aaronpk feels like he saw only one side of that conversation
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aaronpk You can definitely open issues as someone outside the group. The only potential concern is contributing actual text to the spec
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cwebber2 puckipedia: hm
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cwebber2 puckipedia: I would think you'd have one Image object per image?
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cwebber2 I guess if you want to upload multiple images and have them grouped into a single object maybe it's not the best endpoint for it
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puckipedia like, imagine a twitter-style 4-image post
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cwebber2 hm
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cwebber2 I hadn't considered that use case
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cwebber2 puckipedia: I mean, maybe there could be one big POST with multiple file objects but that seems maybe hacky? I dunno
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cwebber2 it seems trickier to define
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cwebber2 puckipedia: what do you think?
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aaronpk in Micropub, you upload each image to the media endpoint to get each image's jpeg URL, then you can just post all the URLs in the "photo" property in the Micropub request
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puckipedia ^ I would guess not directly posting into the outbox, but just assigning an id
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aaronpk (the media endpoint idea is based on the Twitter API so it's not surprising it matches)
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puckipedia so you can then do a {"type": "Create", {"type": "Note", "attachment": ["id1", "id2", "id3", "id4"]}}
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puckipedia and ad a content
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cwebber2 we used to have a similar thing where you did the upload across multiple posts
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cwebber2 but, and I guess this is MediaGoblin bias, I felt (and I convinced tsyesika) that it was more easily done all in one POST
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aaronpk the benefit of splitting the media upload from creating the post object is allows clients to upload the images asynchronously
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cwebber2 aaronpk: we did have some challenges in mediagoblin where we wanted to be able to transcode videos
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aaronpk or even in the reverse order, such as how Swarm does it. you can create a checkin with a photo and if you're on crappy wifi, the checkin is created first and the app says "photo upload failed, try again" and you can tap it to upload the photo afterwards
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cwebber2 and if you uploaded a video, you might have several resolutions
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cwebber2 and "attaching" each one to the object, well you might not even know what those filenames would be
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cwebber2 you'd have to wait until video transcoding could be done
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cwebber2 before you upload your object
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cwebber2 that could take hours
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cwebber2 so it was easier to upload the media at the same time and have it affix the right things to the object
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aaronpk the way micropub (and twitter) define it is the media endpoint response is the ID of the thing to add to your post, regardless of whether "processing" is done
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cwebber2 also less garbage collection of unused stuff
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cwebber2 hm
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aaronpk twitter supports video upload too of course
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aaronpk and they transcode like crazy
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tsyesika cwebber2: our mediagoblin issues were more a legacy problem rather than a technical one
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tsyesika regarding transcoding and having images submitted without the metadata
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tsyesika mediagoblin mixes image objects and posts containing images due to it obviously being designed in where the distinction was meaningless
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cwebber2 well
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cwebber2 wait
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cwebber2 this could still be done with the current api sort of, but there's a catch
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cwebber2 you could upload multiple images to the mediaUpload endpoint, and it would create multiple objects for that, then create a single post that you submit to your outbox that has them all as attachments
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cwebber2 *but*
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cwebber2 the problem is they'd all appear in your outbox as individual posts
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cwebber2 you'd need a way to flag that this is meant to be attached to something else, and not go in the outbox
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cwebber2 if you could do that, you could put each one of the objects created in the attachments as puckipedia described I think
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cwebber2 so you'd need an extra boolean in the form
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puckipedia maybe if it's a Create activity, post it into the outbox, else just give it an ID?
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cwebber2 puckipedia: so make a {Video} as opposed to {Create: {Video}} ?
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puckipedia well, if you send it as {Create: {Video}} it's post it into the outbox. if you send {Video} it only gives it an ID
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cwebber2 right, the id of the Video only
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cwebber2 but not post it wrapped in the Create to the outbox
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cwebber2 I like that puckipedia
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cwebber2 puckipedia: could you write up an issue for this on the tracker? I'd like to get it integrated.
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cwebber2 puckipedia: or I can if you don't feel like it :)
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puckipedia https://github.com/w3c/activitypub/issues/239
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Loqi [puckipedia] #239 mediaUpload: only post to outbox if it's a Create activity?
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puckipedia I'll quickly put this into Kroeg
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cwebber2 puckipedia: thanx :D
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cwebber2 puckipedia: finally, a really good reason to be wrapping things in Create ;)
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puckipedia hehe, I think I just got it implemented in Kroeg. lemme verify...
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cwebber2 puckipedia: you are kicking butt with your implementation work
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cwebber2 A+
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puckipedia https://lol.puckipedia.com/e56052f8/status/486df3ee.json
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cwebber2 :D
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puckipedia (I added .json/.atom, those override the Accept: header for user convenience) also I fixed the URI path: https://lol.puckipedia.com/asdf/image/690c307d.json
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puckipedia it used a cool template to generate the image id: ${$.attributedTo|$.actor|resolve|%.preferredUsername|shortguid}/${$.type|slug}/${shortguid}
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cwebber2 @_@
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puckipedia first thing says 'get attributedTo, if that fails, use actor, then resolve the object, get preferredUsername from that object, if that fails use a randomly short guid'
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cwebber2 puckipedia: btw, curious if you support users posting a new collection, and then adding arbitrary items to it
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puckipedia ... yes? I think?
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cwebber2 puckipedia: my tests for Add / Remove assume you can do that
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cwebber2 because I wasn't sure how else to test it
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puckipedia lemme see...
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puckipedia it /should/ work
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puckipedia but it's failing for unknown reasons
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cwebber2 puckipedia: well the real question wasn't whether it's working or not currently (hey, and the test suite could help you catch that) but whether it's a reasonable thing to expect people to implement
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cwebber2 sounds like since you meant it to be there and work, it's a reasonable approach
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puckipedia yeah. Collections are kinda a hack, the items inside are stored separately
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puckipedia so I forced the unflattener to never unflatten collections, because it won't unflatten the orderedItems etc
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cwebber2 puckipedia: yeah, I have it done as a separate step. that runs before the unflattener
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cwebber2 what I do is I have a display-expand procedure that different object types can implement, and that fills in the initial page
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cwebber2 and then it gets passed to the unflattener to expand the whole thing for retrieval
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cwebber2 puckipedia: also how are you doing pagination? I'm having the user be able to pass in which item to start with via a GET request
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cwebber2 er
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cwebber2 a query parameter in the GET
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cwebber2 so if there's a page=<object-id> it returns an OrderedCollectionPage for that object
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puckipedia the collection item table has normal sequential IDs
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puckipedia so "id": "https://lol.puckipedia.com/users/asdf/outbox?from_id=5"
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cwebber2 puckipedia: gotcha
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cwebber2 cool
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puckipedia I should probably stop external OrderedCollections etc from being cached
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Loqi agreed.
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puckipedia cwebber2: https://lol.puckipedia.com/asdf/status/a4b41405.json :)
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puckipedia ehm, woops, I broke {type: Update} a while back
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puckipedia ... now it isn't recognized as a collection anymore :D:
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puckipedia fixed
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puckipedia cwebber2: I just did a Create / Add / Update
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puckipedia so yes, it works
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cwebber2 puckipedia: cool
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cwebber2 btw
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cwebber2 puckipedia: I'm able to retrieve the Collection object using Accept header of application/activity+json
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cwebber2 but
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cwebber2 trying with Accept: application/ld+json; profile="https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams"
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Loqi [Amy Guy] ActivityStreams 2.0 Terms
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puckipedia the server is down atm, doing a git commit
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cwebber2 makes your server spill its guts :)
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puckipedia one sec
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puckipedia try again?
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puckipedia ouch yeah
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cwebber2 maybe I should have the test suite test for which ones the server supports...
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puckipedia ... works here? :P
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puckipedia maybe you have some kind of extra spaces somewhere?
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cwebber2 I get back text/html
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cwebber2 it's not breaking now
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puckipedia yeah, the gateway errors is because it's just a proxy to my home IP which has VS open
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puckipedia can you try once more?
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cwebber2 sure
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puckipedia figured out, there's no space between ; and p
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puckipedia and I kinda require that ATM
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cwebber2 I was sending it as
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cwebber2 (http-get "https://lol.puckipedia.com/asdf/status/a4b41405/orderedcollection" #:headers '((accept . ((application/ld+json (profile . "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams"))))))
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cwebber2 the lists are automatically converted to the right accept header
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cwebber2 so I don't even control the space ;)
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puckipedia ah. I got 'Accept: application/ld+json;profile="https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams"'
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Loqi [Amy Guy] ActivityStreams 2.0 Terms
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puckipedia I should probably clean that up
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puckipedia done
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cwebber2 hm
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cwebber2 no dice
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puckipedia ... ehm
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puckipedia hm
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puckipedia can you try once more?
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puckipedia aha, "application/ld+json;profile=https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams"
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Loqi [Amy Guy] ActivityStreams 2.0 Terms
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puckipedia ... I should probably use something better to normalize
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cwebber2 yeah still not working
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puckipedia yeah, apparently you don't need to quote values
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puckipedia should work now
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puckipedia bbiab
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cwebber2 works, thanks puckipedia
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cwebber2 puckipedia: ping me when things are up again on your server
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puckipedia done
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cwebber2 cool, my client can pull down stuff from your server
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puckipedia I.. broke something, so it may not be doing accept things right
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puckipedia woops, I do checks the wrong way
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cwebber2 and render as localized as2 objects
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puckipedia 1 sec, restarting servers
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puckipedia so I'm going to SHA2017, and they've got a python-powered badge
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puckipedia ... guess what I'm going to make? :)
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cwebber2 a python? :)
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puckipedia a tiny ActivityPub client maybe? :P
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puckipedia I like the progress I'm making on Kroeg. slowly but surely fixing the last things in the implementation document
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puckipedia let's add a blocking mechanism now
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cwebber2 :)
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puckipedia lol. my new mimetype code makes browsers get the atom xml
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puckipedia because application/xml
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cwebber2 xmlol
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puckipedia aand blocks are implemented!
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puckipedia except for reading back blocks, and undoing blocks
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cwebber2 puckipedia: fast!
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xmpp-social [ajordan] aaronpk: the only message IRC missed was Takyoji wondering if the bridge was moderated cause their message about existing implementations didn't make it though to IRC originally
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puckipedia https://github.com/w3c/activitypub/issues/240
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Loqi [puckipedia] #240 Document `Undo`ing Blocks, and maybe reading back Blocks
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puckipedia undoing and reading blocks fixed
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puckipedia ... hmmmmm. hit an optimization roadblock
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puckipedia my current "is blocked" check is checking the OrderedCollection for the user, which is instant
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puckipedia but I can't find the Block activity I used to block someone
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cwebber2 puckipedia: you mean when the client wants to send the {Undo: Block}?
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puckipedia yeah
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cwebber2 puckipedia: what do you think of something like this
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puckipedia I wonder if the 'blocked' list should be a list of Block activities, then an internal list of blocked users
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puckipedia ... yeah, that's more logical, I add a published property to every activity so you can see when the block happened
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cwebber2
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cwebber2 "type": "Undo",
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cwebber2 {"id": "https://foovile.example/123",
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cwebber2 "object": {
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cwebber2 "type": "Block",
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cwebber2 "id": "https://foovile.example/123#undoing-object"
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cwebber2 "object": "https://actorland.example/user/troublemaker"}}
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cwebber2 puckipedia: you don't need the original block object to undo it necessarily
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cwebber2 since it's more removing the user from the collection, rather than undoing the specific former block action
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cwebber2 this is what I've been planning on doing... does it make sense to you?
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puckipedia yeah
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puckipedia I mean, if I were to put that into client->server api, it'd probably do the Right Thing
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puckipedia into my API, that is
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cwebber2 personally I'm not sure if removing all the UnFoo types made sense, it's more tricky to use Undo than to just use an inverse type
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cwebber2 but by the time I came to that realization it was too late
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cwebber2 I think this is a reasonable workaround but it isn't as nice as having an Unblock IMO
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puckipedia I'm thinking. the 'likes' also has the Like activities, and not the Actor that liked it
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puckipedia cwebber2: to unblock someone you need to know they're blocked
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puckipedia so having to get the Activity isn't that bad imo
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puckipedia cwebber2: https://github.com/puckipedia/Kroeg/blob/master/Kroeg.Server/implementation-report.md :)
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cwebber2 hiya
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cwebber2 I'm back
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cwebber2 hey nice puckipedia :)
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xmpp-social [ajordan] puckipedia: it would also make sense to me to err on the side of providing more information
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xmpp-social [ajordan] It's easy to get actors who have been blocked from a list of Block activities, but not the other way around
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puckipedia yeah. that's what I decided on too
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puckipedia I added an invisible 'blocked' inside the 'blocks' collection, so blocks is OrderedCollection<Block>, and blocked is OrderedCollection<Actor> and is invisible
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xmpp-social [ajordan] Which would be an argument in favor of the "blocked" list being a Collection of Block activities, not actors
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xmpp-social [ajordan] Ah gotcha
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puckipedia well, I renamed it to be 'blocks'. the 'blocks' collection contains "_blocked", which you can't read (the _blocked is just for the server's reference)
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xmpp-social [ajordan] But how is the Collection of actors useful if it's invisible? What's it for?
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xmpp-social [ajordan] Ohhh I see
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xmpp-social [ajordan] Just an implementation detail basically
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puckipedia yeah
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puckipedia checking if a Collection contains an Actor is just asking the database 'does a collection item exist that is from collection A and is entity B'
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xmpp-social [ajordan] Right
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cwebber2 puckipedia: btw out of curiosit
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cwebber2 y
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cwebber2 you said you support multi-domain hosting in your current application model
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xmpp-social [ajordan] Do we not have a standard way to get blocked actors? I thought we specified a name/semantics for that like we do for likes, following, etc.
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cwebber2 do you flag when something is a "local" vs a "remote" object?
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cwebber2 since object under the server's control presumably need to track information that remote objects don't
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puckipedia yes. IsOwner, which means that the server itself is *the* authority for that object
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cwebber2 cool.
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cwebber2 puckipedia: nice to compare notes :)
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puckipedia IsOwner also means they don't expire (I added a small 1-week cache for external objects, except for tag: because those I can't regenerate from the id only)
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puckipedia if it expires, the database store just says 'it doesn't exist' and the retrieving entity store will pick up the slack
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puckipedia (and push it back into the cache)
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puckipedia https://github.com/puckipedia/Kroeg/tree/master/Kroeg.Server/Services/EntityStore
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puckipedia btw, that RetrievingEntityStore also is responsible for e.g. OStatus user retrieval, which is a slightly evil hack
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xmpp-social [ajordan] cwebber2: since you're here, presumably instead of being deep in the test suite
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xmpp-social [ajordan] https://github.com/w3c/activitypub/pulls ;)
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cwebber2 ajordan: I am deep in the test suite :)
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cwebber2 but I will get to those.
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cwebber2 I appreciate you working on them, and sorry it's taking me so long
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puckipedia cwebber2: btw, I can give you access to my semi-temporary Kroeg instance, so you can throw the test suite against it
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xmpp-social [ajordan] Lol too bad
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xmpp-social [ajordan] It's np, I just want them to get merged vaguely soon since they're trivial but really nice to have
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cwebber2 puckipedia: cool, I'd love to do that. the current way I'm running tests is by having an actor and an associated oauth2 bearer token to throw at them for access, is that possible with your setup?
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xmpp-social [ajordan] In particular the OAuth URL problem that got filed yesterday I caught a while ago
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puckipedia cwebber2: yeah
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cwebber2 puckipedia: jawesome
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puckipedia lemme see, I just pushed the newest code to it
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puckipedia https://puckipedia.com/auth/register you can register here, just enter whatever, it has to be valid
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puckipedia woops I pressed ^C
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puckipedia once you have an account, you can go to https://puckipedia.com/settings and use 'new' to create an actor. Then to skip the whole OAuth2 flow go to https://puckipedia.com/auth/actor and you can get a token for a specific actor
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puckipedia this flow will be massively improved, but it works for now :P
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puckipedia and there you go :)
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cwebber2 puckipedia: cool, thanks :)
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puckipedia from /settings you can make multiple actors, btw
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puckipedia you do need separate OAuth2 tokens for them
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puckipedia (they're user+actor bound)
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cwebber2 cool, registered
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cwebber2 I'll try posting some content :)
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puckipedia follows access log carefully
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cwebber2 thanks puckipedia, it'll be nice to see if the stuff I'm doing works outside of my own tests
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cwebber2 wuh-oh, I wonder what's causing this
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cwebber2 ERROR: Throw to key `gnutls-error' with args `(#<gnutls-error-enum The TLS connection was non-properly terminated.> read_from_session_record_port)'.
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cwebber2 guess I'd better find out
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puckipedia my VPS provider isn't awesome, that might just be the network connection randomly dropping
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cwebber2 it may be also something on my end
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puckipedia ehm, lemme rebuild and switch over to debug, because for some reason you just got like four 404's after each other
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cwebber2 I recently helped in contributing https support to guile, which surprisingly didn't have support out of the box, but I was mostly porting someone else's code
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puckipedia cwebber2: I'm seeing POST http://puckipedia.com/social/users/cwebber/outbox text/plain;charset=utf-8 (Content-Length: 75)
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puckipedia on my end
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puckipedia ... did that url just get archived by web archive
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cwebber2 lol it went into the irc logs probably
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cwebber2 ohhh
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cwebber2 the error was fixed in guile recently
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cwebber2 but
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cwebber2 not in the version I'm running, yet ;p
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puckipedia that 404 is because the POST is in unknown format, and then it fails the posting
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cwebber2 okay, I've fixed the part that's on my end
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cwebber2 but let me keep hacking
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puckipedia yeah, this one won't close down, it's on my server
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cwebber2 puckipedia: the gnutls error was on my end fwiw
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puckipedia ah
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cwebber2 but! it's something I know now I have to patch locally
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cwebber2 it looks like I'm hitting some other issues, but they're different... looking into it
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cwebber2 oic.
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cwebber2 puckipedia: so one assumption I just hit that you don't have on your side
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cwebber2 I have a streams interface to the collections
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cwebber2 when I retrieve my outbox I see:
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cwebber2 http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?072b63d53bab1fce#j2AAI+JIpPlXuvVsQsXnQ+cPL4A5KNjiWpc0unq7gqk=
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cwebber2 puckipedia: I confused my streams interface, because it says "oh, if I see a uri for the first object, retrieve that, but if it's an object, we can use that as the first page!"
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cwebber2 nope :)
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cwebber2 I'll change my code to not make that assumption.
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puckipedia well, it's a page, but it's empty
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puckipedia if it isn't empty, see e.g. https://puckipedia.com/social/outbox.json
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cwebber2 oic
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cwebber2 you don't include items/orderedItems when there's nothing there
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cwebber2 got it :)
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puckipedia yeah
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cwebber2 fixed that one...
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puckipedia side effect of how I implement AS2 object to JSON serialization
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cwebber2 puckipedia: cool, nah it's good to see where my assumptions are just based off of my implementation
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cwebber2 that's interesting
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cwebber2 puckipedia: I think I'm getting a 404 when trying to post to my outbox
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puckipedia text/plain;charset=utf-8 again
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cwebber2 yup
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cwebber2 oh
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cwebber2 did I not set the headers
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cwebber2 arg
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puckipedia I should probably add a fallback for that situation
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cwebber2 puckipedia: still getting a 404 and afaict I should have fixed that one
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cwebber2 oh wait
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cwebber2 derp
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puckipedia I just restarted the server
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puckipedia should help you debug
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puckipedia ... okay what
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puckipedia that was not supposed to happen?
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puckipedia cwebber2: I am bad at code, one sec
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puckipedia it's the charset it's choking on
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cwebber2 ah :)
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cwebber2 puckipedia: I'm obviously having my own issues
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cwebber2 good to test our assumptions against each other :)
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puckipedia yeah
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puckipedia should be fixed now btw
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puckipedia (issue was that I still did a string compare on the Content-Type instead of doing proper mime type parsing)
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cwebber2 https://puckipedia.com/social/cwebber/status/5ddf162c/how-are-you-doing-today nice slug :)
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puckipedia that's for the object :P
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puckipedia the activity is without the slug :P nice evil configurable hack
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cwebber2 ttps://puckipedia.com/social/cwebber/status/5ddf162c
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cwebber2 yeah
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cwebber2 ha!
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cwebber2 cool.
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cwebber2 puckipedia: nice, I'm guessing I can't see it because I didn't make it public access :)
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cwebber2 let me test that theory.
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puckipedia correct!
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puckipedia hacks DB, gives themself access to cwebber2's test account
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xmpp-social [ajordan] Lollll
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xmpp-social [ajordan] BOFH makes an appearance ;)
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puckipedia https://puckipedia.com/social/cwebber/status/ee896ef5 - that works :)
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cwebber2 https://puckipedia.com/social/cwebber/status/ee896ef5
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cwebber2 dope
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cwebber2 yeah
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cwebber2 +1
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cwebber2 puckipedia++
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Loqi puckipedia has 6 karma
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cwebber2 kroeg++
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Loqi kroeg has 1 karma
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puckipedia "Unknown mime type application/x-www-form-urlencoded" oh right now I can't use any non-activitypub features
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cwebber2 hey interesting
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cwebber2 I just fetched my outbox both authed and non-authed
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cwebber2 and I see that when non-authed, the non-public object doesn't show up
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cwebber2 but it is included in the totalItems!
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cwebber2 cool.
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cwebber2 that seems like reasonable behavior
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puckipedia well, I'm not sure what to do with totalItems. it can be pretty expensive to calculate (need to go over each item, calculate audience, then see if you can view it)
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cwebber2 yeah I think it's fine
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puckipedia I guess totalItems is more of an indicator
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cwebber2 I guess I could possibly tell if someone was still posting even if I wasn't getting their messages ;)
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puckipedia like, "posted N posts"
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cwebber2 but that's the worst you can do knowing about that
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cwebber2 yep
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cwebber2 puckipedia: that's how I think of it.
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puckipedia actually, twitter leaks that too
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puckipedia private accounts show amount of tweets
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puckipedia I could filter public vs non-public prertty fast though
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cwebber2 puckipedia: I think it's no big deal, up to you. but yeah, anyway, this is good.
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cwebber2 ooh
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cwebber2 time to test submitting some other types :)
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puckipedia I don't do any special processing
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puckipedia oh and I kinda don't do html yet :D:
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cwebber2 https://puckipedia.com/social/cwebber/status/f04b8adf lol :)
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cwebber2 that's one of the objects I test against locally
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puckipedia heh, I don't flatten Link types because url isn't really an id type
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cwebber2 https://puckipedia.com/social/cwebber/status/25c2d1c2 there's the other one
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cwebber2 here's how I render them:
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cwebber2 http://dustycloud.org/gfx/goodies/video-in-pubstrate.png
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cwebber2 that's the latter one
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puckipedia I don't really have any kind of rendering except for Note yet
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cwebber2 http://dustycloud.org/tmp/pubstrate-ellen-terry.png here's how I render that image currently
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cwebber2 puckipedia: mind if I link to https://puckipedia.com/social/cwebber/status/ee896ef5 on my microblog accounts?
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puckipedia go ahead
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puckipedia oh and check your /inbox :P
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puckipedia hm, GNU social is having a bit more trouble with it
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puckipedia ... I broke HEAD, didn't I
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puckipedia cwebber2: btw, if a tweet starts with an @, it only shows up if they follow both you and me
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cwebber2 ah oops
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cwebber2 puckipedia: I thought htey changed that
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cwebber2 I'll repost it
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cwebber2 puckipedia: reposted
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cwebber2 puckipedia: I'm gonna take a break for a bit. Thanks for your work on Kroeg :)
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cwebber2 super awesome.
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puckipedia no problem, thanks for being so awesome!
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puckipedia a ton of Friendica instances are picking up on the link
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puckipedia oh, and.. https://puckipedia.com/social/puck/status/b5122df7 :)
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cwebber2 :D
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puckipedia hm. woops. I think there's a bug somewhere. you can't read your own inbox :D:
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puckipedia cwebber2: https://puckipedia.com/social/users/cwebber/inbox.json?from_id=11 :P
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puckipedia let's go to bed now though. 01:01 hee
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puckipedia here*
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