2017-08-04 UTC
# 00:14 tantek I believe Bikeshed also uses SpecRef so this is a big help. # 00:14 Loqi ajordan has 15 karma in this channel (16 overall) # 00:15 Loqi [tantek] post-type-discovery: W3C Post Type Discovery specification # 00:17 aaronpk is not familiar with Bikeshed, but respec isn't too bad for me # 00:17 aaronpk also lol i still can't believe nobody thought to put up an HTML form to make the form post to echidna # 00:24 tantek aaronpk apparently Bikeshed does a better job with automatic cross-spec terminology references # 00:24 tantek I'll find out more and write something up along with how to convert a Respec spec to a Bikeshed spec # 00:25 tantek they did try to harmonize their metadata fields # 00:25 aaronpk i haven't noticed any problems with respec references but i maybe just don't know what i'm missing # 00:25 tantek so supposedly it's not that hard to convert. so I'm going to guinea pig it and document # 00:25 tantek right, I want to see if I get any new advantages I didn't before etc. # 01:15 ajordan aaronpk: yeah apparently he does the "give collaborator access when people send PRs" thing # 01:17 ajordan tantek: "I want to see if I get any advantages" don't you already use Bikeshed though? I looked it up and the CSSWG uses it right? # 01:17 Loqi tantek has 68 karma in this channel (375 overall) # 01:18 ajordan it's still on the ACLU's Instagram atm but live recordings are ephemeral for 24 hours # 01:18 tantek ajordan correct. hence why I shared a video permalink URL that works in web browsers without a native app # 01:20 ajordan tantek: seems like a large part of your pain with Respec is the fact that you like even your WDs to not require JS right? # 01:20 Loqi [strugee] fulldom-server: Proxy-like server that will show you the DOM of a page after JS runs # 01:21 tantek ajordan, correct specs MUST NOT require JS to be readable # 01:21 ajordan tantek: totally agree, but for working drafts it doesn't seem like *that* big of a deal # 01:22 tantek ajordan, I think the CSSWG setup with bikeshed is semi-automatic, like bikeshed runs on the server and builds a static version for you # 01:22 ajordan tantek: should I interpret that sentence using RFC 2119? ;) # 01:23 tantek btw lots of silo / social media related discussion in that video # 01:23 ajordan tantek: right. you probably could set up something very similar using Fulldom # 01:23 ajordan (which to be totally clear I am biased towards, being the author) # 01:23 tantek except I'd rather use something that already has a setup # 01:27 ajordan definitely feel free to do what you want with your spec (obviously), I'm just saying you could probably make it work with Respec fairly easy xmpp-social and tantek joined the channel
# 09:24 Loqi [tabatkins] bikeshed: :bike: A preprocessor for anyone writing specifications that converts source files into actual specs. the_frey, timbl and tantek joined the channel
tantek I'm looking at switching my spec over to Bikeshed (instead of Respec). I've documented all the Respec related steps I have to take and frankly it's a bit of a pain: https://github.com/tantek/post-type-discovery (see README at bottom)
ajordan I wonder if you could automate that with https://github.com/strugee/fulldom-server