#social 2018-08-15
2018-08-15 UTC
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cwebber about time for a meeting eh?
# cwebber Evan is on vacation though
# cwebber I never set up a meeting page...
# nightpool[m] I'm not available unfortunately
# nightpool[m] got a day job, you know
# cwebber yeah maybe we'll skip this week
# cwebber I didn't pre-announce it
# cwebber got wrapped up in some things
# cwebber and by some things I mean writing an implementation of tetris in racket last night https://octodon.social/@cwebber/100554527454257001
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Loqi [Christopher Lemmer Webber] Oh yeah, want to see what the finished game looks like? Here's a screenshot: https://assets.octodon.social/media_attachments/files/002/373/248/original/0a7f04adee107029.png
# cwebber I don't claim to be a responsible person
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# saranix yay. zot6 was finally published. It looks remarkably similar to activitypub with the following differences: no JSON-LD, mandates http sigs, has nomadic ids, a webfinger-like discovery mechanism that isn't webfinger, and delivery reports. It also has a very peculiar signature algorithm... not sure about that one.
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bigbluehat saranix: "Inclusion of ActivityStreams (JSON-LD) as a supported (primary) serialisation." from https://macgirvin.com/wiki/mike/Zot%2BVI/Home seems to say it does use JSON-LD and ActivityStreams fwiw
# saranix I think he is using them as synonyms erroneously. Look at the examples, there isn't even an @context
# bigbluehat you can do JSON-LD with at a @context via Link headers fwiw. Still scrolling for examples :)
# saranix the nav is on the left. https://macgirvin.com/wiki/mike/Zot%2BVI/Messages
# bigbluehat saranix: yeah. looks like most of the activitystreams stuff is also embedded inside zot "wrapping" JSON
# bigbluehat also, OpenWebAuth is based on webfinger https://macgirvin.com/wiki/mike/OpenWebAuth/Home
# saranix oh wow. You need to do webfinger first, then discover the url for this other service, rather than just plopping that meta in the webfinger itself
# bigbluehat looks like it
# saranix seems wasteful
# saranix bah. How disappointing. I don't think I can implement such a thing. Multiple roundtrips will tie up a process and creates all sorts of problems I'm not willing to deal with
# saranix err... nvm. OWA isn't necessary for zot6, only for auth on foreign sites
# saranix it's all good
# saranix you can grab the key itself from the webfinger, use that for signatures. the OWA endpoint is only to get a fresh token, which isn't necessary for zot6 message passing
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