#social 2018-08-27
2018-08-27 UTC
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KVLAhroMEI hi there, I like ask about designing an activitypub s2s flavour for civic participation: http://lists.open311.org/groups/discuss/messages/topic/59pUjwgosHsPy9jEviybtB
# KVLAhroMEI In short: Is there any official way to start an activitypub driven(, but with custom activities enriched) protocol?
# nightpool[m] there's not currently an official way, no
# nightpool[m] but ActivityPub/ActivityStreams is very extensible
# nightpool[m] so there's no need for you to get permission to add custom activities
# KVLAhroMEI I tried to view at gitpub development (similar szenario on decentralized issue management), but there was no roadmap that shows the way how to get started :-/
# nightpool[m] gitpub kind of decided to go off and do their own thing
# nightpool[m] I'm not really sure what happened to them—last I heard they were still arguing about licensing
# nightpool[m] I think it's pretty important that specs are implementation driven though, not the other way around. doing "speculative" standardization work is putting the cart before the horse, in a lot of ways.
# nightpool[m] that being said I think lots of people here would be happy to help you talk through your data models and workflow and figure out if/how ActivityPub makes sense!
# KVLAhroMEI So start prototyping before releasing an RFC?
# nightpool[m] definitely
# KVLAhroMEI ok, I guess for now I need still better understanding of ActivityPub and ActivityStreams.
# nightpool[m] well, that's totally something we're able to help with!
# KVLAhroMEI Esp. I'm not sure how the network can deal with offline servers, moved servers etc.
# nightpool[m] generally it assumes that if servers go offline or are missing, they'll pop back up eventually at the same HTTP address
# nightpool[m] so if you have to move a server, just change the DNS record
# nightpool[m] if you go offline, other servers will queue their sent activities to retry later.
# KVLAhroMEI How about redirects? If users move their account to an different server? (if both servers agreed before)
# nightpool[m] there was some discussion on that here: https://github.com/w3c/activitypub/issues/300
# nightpool[m] but as far as I know no one has had the chance to implement it yet
# nightpool[m] we're all pretty small projects!
# nightpool[m] sorry, I need to afk. gotta get ready for work
# KVLAhroMEI np thx 4 your help so far!
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