#social 2019-02-22
2019-02-22 UTC
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rialtate[m] Really 2 rels might be useful depending on your policies, "will move to" and "has moved to". Both would work for Update and could carry the side effect of changing the id if we want it to
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# fr33domlover Hmmmm I'm wondering something about webfinger
# fr33domlover Currently in my project I'm not using it, but, what I wonder is, I have actors in multiple namespaces
# fr33domlover Not sure how many, but, suppose some actors are people but others are other kind of object
# fr33domlover How do I map the actor IDs to webfinger
# fr33domlover (I don't think I strictly need to; just for fediverse interop perhaps)
# fr33domlover I'm thinking maybe person-X@host for human actors, chatroom-X@host for actors that are chatrooms etc. i.e. need to somehow add some prefix/suffix to separate the namespaces
# fr33domlover Perhaps the prefix can be a single character (need to check which chars are allowed in acct username, or URI in general :p)
# Cult anything wrong with w3id.org ?
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# Rixon[m] Cult: Morally? Technically?
# Rixon[m] > Other than hosting the software for the Permanent Identifier Community Group, the "World Wide Web Consortium" (W3C) is not involved in the support or management of this website in any way.
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cwebber2 Libre Lounge episode about federation is out https://librelounge.org/episodes/episode-11-what-is-federation-reviewpub.html
# Cult Rixon[m]: the website was down earlier today
# cjslep[m] Nice!
# rialtate[m] fr33domlover: yep. Lowest common denominator (as always) is mastodon. They only allow a-z and underscore, nothing else, just 27 chars.
# Rixon[m] Oh I see
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# fr33domlover rialtate[m], sounds somewhat restrictive. A bit like Mastodon was created under an assumption all instances will be Mastodon software. It seems, to my yet uneducated eyes, that webfinger is just for UI, to allow matching user@host with actor IDs. So it shouldn't even be required
# fr33domlover I could do webfinger for user accounts and not do it for other kinds of actors, but, I wonder if that prevents federation
# jdormit[m] It would prevent discovery but not federation I think
# jdormit[m] Your servers would be capable of talking to other implementations but how would the other apps know where to find your actors?
# nightpool[m] fr33domlover: what makes you think mastodon was created under that assumption???
# nightpool[m] mastodon has always federated with a lot of other software, like gnu social and pleroma
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# fr33domlover nightpool[m], Idk, I don't think that, I just wonder, no assumptions :)
# nightpool[m] yeah, sorry, I realized afterwards that I misread your post
# fr33domlover jdormit[m], it would prevent discovery the way Mastodon/Webfinger does it, but not prevent discovery in general. I wonder if we can do discovery in a general way that can handle any URI
# fr33domlover Webfinger is meant for discovering accounts; but what if we want to do actor discovery and some actors aren't accounts etc.