#social 2019-02-21
2019-02-21 UTC
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oceatoon cool thanks for the info , @cjslep[m] I'd love to help build a visualisation of all these contexts maybe you guys here want to start
# oceatoon @jdormit I'll look into it thanks
# dansup oceatoon: look forward to it!
# oceatoon how should we call the group ? Social Web Working Group ?
# oceatoon offcourse once AP is implemented it'll be part of the fediverse
# dansup i prefer to call it ap gang, but SocialCG is the name
# oceatoon we can all join there and more important promote our respective project and visualize where every one is geographically
# dansup I recently started a new AP project, a self hosted status page/uptime monitor. https://state.pixelfed.net
# oceatoon App Gang :D I like that
# dansup source code: https://github.com/dansup/state
# oceatoon it could also be part of an existing group called OAE : Open App Ecosystem if you guys want
# oceatoon wow maybe this is a great step cause since you use PHP
# oceatoon this might be totaly compatible with our framework
# oceatoon it could probably almost work out of the 'inbox'
# oceatoon ;)
# dansup heh, yeah!
# oceatoon what DB do you use in the Back End
# dansup for https://pixelfed.social mysql.
# dansup and I use sqlite for state.pixelfed.net
# dansup it supports postgres, sqlite, sql server and mysql
# oceatoon hmm we're on nosql mongoDB
# oceatoon that might be a blocker
# dansup oceatoon: I think there is a laravel mongodb database driver
# dansup I know you can add pretty much any database type because the schema is abstracted
# oceatoon cool , i'm not familiar with Laravel , but maybe we can connect to talk about it live ? do you care to have a 15min call ?
# oceatoon just to see if .... ;)
# oceatoon here's the OAE community https://www.communecter.org/#@oae
# dansup I don't do phone calls or video chat, only irc :)
# dansup I had a few crazy clients that made me want to not have a cell phone lol
# oceatoon anyone can join , there are some implementations of activity pub , by commonsPub , value flows, OCE Open collab economy, ...
# dansup I wouldn't get your hopes up about commonsPub :)
# oceatoon hahaha all initiatives are good as long as they respect the ethics ;)
# oceatoon after it's just a question of time and motivation
# oceatoon and knowledge ;)
# dansup they basically forked pleroma and decided to rewrite it without working with the upstream developers for no apparent reason
# oceatoon not a good choice
# dansup I'm not sure if they are working with any other AP implementation, but the real innovation is with Mastodon, Pleroma, PeerTube, Pixelfed and others
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# oceatoon we can add common sense to the list then :D
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# oceatoon yep I here you but I'm not judging all these initiatives
# dansup Anfora, Peertube and Pixelfed are working on a live streaming ActivityPub extension!
# dansup working together on the AP implementation I mean
# oceatoon I'm dreaming of a nice and cozy place we can visualize this beautifull innovative community and project
# oceatoon we've had activityStreams implemented since 2016 we just never found the time to come back around here
# dansup oceatoon: https://fediverse.party/
# oceatoon but now is the time to connect the dots
# oceatoon interfaces are getting better and things moved in paralele
# oceatoon yep I saw that
# oceatoon but it's missing interactivity and geolocation , availability, competence , knowledge , ressources, needs ...etc
# oceatoon the real social and societal part of the fediverse ;)
# oceatoon that's what I'm looking for , even if IRC is great :D
# dansup oceatoon: I think you are looking for feneas, have you heard of that organization? This is more for technical aspects of ActivityPub
# dansup https://feneas.org/
# oceatoon I discovered it here
# oceatoon interesting , I'll take a look
# oceatoon great stuff , I don't see geolocalisation and many other societal features
# oceatoon is there any one from feneas here ?
# oceatoon I'm loogued in to friendica, is there an overview of the feneas community ?
# oceatoon and projects ?
# oceatoon I think it's really important to give and get such visibility
# oceatoon it gives a sense of understanding and creates the will to join
# oceatoon maybe it's just a point of view, what do you think ?
# dansup I understand what you want, but again I don't think this is the right channel or organization for that. You want https://riot.im/app/#/room/#feneas:feneas.org
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# dansup Many of the people here are developers or stakeholders of the ActivityPub spec and only discuss that
# oceatoon is htis it https://friendica.feneas.org/directory
# oceatoon ok , that could also be a great thing we can model , who is dev, stakeholder etc
# oceatoon the real interest is to get test going between our plateforms mastodon, pixelfed, pleroma, peertube
# dansup you can test it with https://activitypub.rocks/
# dansup cwebber2: the test suite is down :(
# oceatoon I guess our first objective is to reference all these devs, using their AP actor endpoint from any of these plateforms and have them visible from communecter and have access to all features
# oceatoon that'll be a first objective then
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# booteille[m] HI!
# booteille[m] I wanted to know if that would be possible, in the future, to allow instances to inform federation they have changed thei domain name?
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# jdormit[m] That would be tricky
# jdormit[m] Since object ids are currently uris
# jdormit[m] (in existing implementations)
# jdormit[m] Some of the work cwebber is doing involves exploring object ids that are independent of the server they live on, e.g. magnet urls in his case
# jdormit[m] But current implementations don't support that - sending an Update to update the ID doesn't really make sense...
# jdormit[m] See https://gitlab.com/spritely/golem/blob/master/README.org for cwebber's magnet uri implementation
# rialtate[m] > <@jdormit:cybre.space> But current implementations don't support that - sending an Update to update the ID doesn't really make sense...
# rialtate[m] I thought maybe updating and adding a link rel but none seem to fit just right. Canonical and latest-version are close but don't carry the implication "but don't get it from here anymore cause it'll be gone". Kind of surprised no such thing exists yet
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# jdormit[m] Yeah that would be a sensible approach. Add a link rel in the webfinger response you mean?
# rialtate[m] No I meant like a Link https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-rel attached to the https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-url property
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