#social 2019-03-06
2019-03-06 UTC
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dansup jdormit: Well that is one of the reasons i was asking lol
# dansup Mentions like @username@instance.org will not work by default so it needs some changes
# dansup I tried changing the regex to match mastodons but php and ruby handle it differently
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# jdormit[m] Right, plus wouldn't it have to actually dereference the webfinger addresses to put the right link in?
# jdormit[m] @username@instance.org doesn't actually tell you anything about how to link to that user at that instance
# fr33domlover jdormit if it's done on client side then just display it as is; if user clicks you can dereference the webfinger (well, or do it ahead of time, but same idea)
# fr33domlover cwebber2 (and anyone else who can give an advice ^_^) if I use ActivityPub for something unrelated to social/microblogging etc. should I still implement and support social features like Create Note, likes and replies on notes, private messages between users, etc. stuff that without ActivityPub I wouldn't do (e.g. on GitLab and similar etc
# fr33domlover There are no private messages between users)
# fr33domlover cwebber2 on receiving from other servers? Or storing and sending to other servers? Or both directions?
# fr33domlover cwebber2 even core AS2/AP types?
# cjslep[m] Yep. It's that way today with the big implementors.
# JasonRobinson[m] fr33domlover (IRC): forgefed is an extension though - why does it need to concern itself with the core? :P
# JasonRobinson[m] I could see gitlab and github at least adding more social networking stuff. they've both added custom "statuses" already. I can't imagine it will be far for private messaging to appear.
# JasonRobinson[m] for example here is one feature request close to that: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/52731
# JasonRobinson[m] (I realize it's more "admin to users" but it could as well be "users to users")
# fr33domlover JasonRobinson, githu8 had PMs and removed the feature years ago :P
# JasonRobinson[m] sure, but doesn'
# JasonRobinson[m] doesn't mean someone who builds on forgefed wont want pm's ;)
# fr33domlover Also yes ForgeFed has a vocabulary extension but still given a forge you may ask, do I support all the social stuff Mastodon Pleroma etc. support
# fr33domlover Yeah sure I agree :)
# JasonRobinson[m] yeah but my point is that isn't forgefed an extension? it shouln't limit usage of other parts of AP, other extensions or core (unless they conflict obviously)
# fr33domlover Yes sure it doesn't limit
# JasonRobinson[m] ok misunderstood then, cool :)
# fr33domlover I just mean, if I write a forge and make it federate and I don't want to support PMs,
# fr33domlover Or likes
# fr33domlover Or follows
# JasonRobinson[m] sure
# fr33domlover Is that still in the spirit of fediverse interoperability etc.
# fr33domlover And by the spec etc.
# fr33domlover :)
# JasonRobinson[m] there is no such thing :P it's unfair to think that every platform has the same features and UX. why build more than one platform if they all work the same? ;)
# JasonRobinson[m] I see AS2/AP more as a toolset - I don't think it is said anywhere "if you use some of this toolset, you must use all of it"
# JasonRobinson[m] that would be a serious constraint to implementors
# fr33domlover I'm curious, if on Mastodon I send a direct message to a user on a server that rejects private messages, will the Mastodon UI tell me that
# fr33domlover Or will it silently store my message and I won't know what really happened
# fr33domlover Create involves 2 separate things: publishing and delivery
# fr33domlover Sometimes you want just the latter, sometimes you want both
# fr33domlover e.g. if an email fails to be delivered, your mail server will tell you
# JasonRobinson[m] Reject message would be a nice thing for people to implement if they don't accept the content
# JasonRobinson[m] Then sending platforms could tell the user
# JasonRobinson[m] Btw, Pythonistas. I'm in testing phase of delivery and receive for my federation library. After that it's mostly implementing objects and such.
# JasonRobinson[m] Q: are there any well working JSON-LD libraries or shall I just go the way I initially was going to, ie "it's all JSON"? :)
# nightpool[m] fr33domlover: we don't currently implement reject messages, unfortunately :(
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