#social 2019-03-20

2019-03-20 UTC
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dansup
Is it weird to make commercials for an open source project?
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dansup
This is an early WIP copy of a pixelfed commercial when federation is fully supported https://i.dansup.xyz/dc2c15d7a55b
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aaronpk
It's only weird if you make it weird ;-)
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fr33domlover
dansup, not at all! We need to advertise at least as much as the proprietary projects ^_^
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fr33domlover
Except they prefer to advertise using manipulative techniques
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fr33domlover
I hope we can do it better
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dansup
fr33domlover: I agree, pixelfed is the underdog of the fediverse, a new project that needs to find its own way. I am pretty happy with it so far
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fr33domlover
dansup, I've heard about Anfora and Prismo much much less than about PixelFed, I think you're doing good work talking about it :) I'd definitely be using it if I needed a place to publish pictures etc.
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fr33domlover
dansup, I also notice around me that stuff like instragram is like no. 1 addiction phone app that people scroll through when they're bored, I hope pixelfed doesn't become that! Instead, hopefully gather meaningful content people go to with a specific purpose ^_^
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fr33domlover
I guess there's sort of an underdog problem in general in federated technologies, and free software web apps in general
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fr33domlover
They exist, they work, but, do you ever meet people around you who know them? I don't :-/
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dansup
nope
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fr33domlover
On the client side, when reading a post with replies, should a client GET all the replies from their host servers?
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fr33domlover
(It's also possible to get them in 1 request from the server that hosts the conversation topic object, but there's no guarantee they're authentic unless you trust the server)
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rialtate[m]
> <@irc_fr33domlover:cybre.space> On the client side, when reading a post with replies, should a client GET all the replies from their host servers?
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rialtate[m]
I like the implementations that return a list of ids (uris) in the replies collection rather than full objects... Although the "downside" to that is an author's contributions disappear when their server does, which may be desirable, however control is not in the author's hands. :/
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fr33domlover
rialtate[m], even if you get full objects, you can still at least verify/download the ones whose IDs are available
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fr33domlover
Like, servers are still alive etc.
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rialtate[m]
fr33domlover: at the expense of wasted bandwidth but yeah
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fr33domlover
rialtate[m], would be even nicer perhaps if you could tell the server whether to send IDs or full objects
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fr33domlover
I guess if we switch to distributed storage or something, it won't be a problem
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rialtate[m]
fr33domlover: yeah... Also https://www.w3.org/TR/odrl/ FTW
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jdormit[m]
How are folks handling blocks? If a blocked actor attempts to post to the inbox of the blocking actor, do you just drop the activity on the ground? Or do you accept it but filter it out of the blocking actor's timeline?
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jdormit[m]
I guess you need to just drop it on the ground
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jdormit[m]
Otherwise everyone else except the blocking actor would still be able to see the activity from the blocked actor
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rialtate[m]
jdormit: one could argue an Ignore would have the alternate behavior you described
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rialtate[m]
Seems like it could get tricky with sharedInbox
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jdormit[m]
Yeah I haven't tackled that at all yet
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jdormit[m]
But sharedInbox probably wouldn't be used to respond to activities by a specific actor
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jdormit[m]
Going to gym now, maybe insight will strike