#social 2019-05-22
2019-05-22 UTC
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pdurbin rigelk[m]: thanks so much for participating in the Dataverse community call about ActivityPub today! Here are the notes if anyone is interested and comments are open and welcome! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n_7aqRKOx9jWLnC3L-k_MDRyxs2DIRf2KFtXO-nd688/edit?usp=sharing
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# rZr hi, do you know any document hosting AP service ? https://mastodon.social/@rzr/102139318807308106
# fr33domlover RzR, maybe Nextcloud with the Social app (I haven't tried though) and perhaps some app for slide/document presentation if needed
# rZr right, I didnt think about it 1st
# rZr thx
# fr33domlover RzR, if it works for you, please do write about it and let's encourage everyone making slides and presentations etc. so use that solution and not a centralized proprietary thing like slideshare
# fr33domlover RzR, kind of like uploading videos to peertube (and not e.g. y0utube)
# rZr yes this is what I am looking for
# rZr slideshare removed embedding youtube video, this antifeature is a good motivation to move to decentralized web
# rZr fr33domlover, https://socialhub.network/t/document-hosting-service/590 to be tracked
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# lain_soykaf hello socialites
# lain_soykaf we are implementing mastodon-style polls in pleroma at the moment
# lain_soykaf but the way votes / answers federate seem a bit weird to me
# lain_soykaf this is how the AS-vocab suggest to do it: https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#questions
# lain_soykaf an object without type and with a 'name' property that must be the same as one of the options in the question
# lain_soykaf and this is how mastodon does it at the moment: https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma/blob/10ca1f91de12c3ff3a1adff2cf36e9ec47c659dd/test/fixtures/mastodon-vote.json
# lain_soykaf essentially the same, but the object also has an recipient and a "Note" type
# lain_soykaf I think the version with Note type doesn't make any sense at all, but the other one without it is also rather strange
# lain_soykaf Just getting a Create for this object, there's really no idea what you are supposed to do with it unless you check the referenced object and see that it's a question
# lain_soykaf long story short, wouldn't it make more sense to give the vote a type of "Vote" or "Answer"?
# lain_soykaf ping cwebber and Gargron
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# cwebber lain_soykaf: the AP example also has Note, right?
# cwebber are you proposing Vote/Answer for the object type or the activity type in response?
# lain_soykaf No, the example has no type at all
# lain_soykaf I was thinking having Vote/Answer being an object type, but actually it being an activity like Follow or Like makes more sense
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# trwnh tangentially: `Answer`ing a `Question` sounds like it makes sense, but imo the more confusing thing is how mastodon currently uses `replies` since it actually treats `Create Question` as a status, instead of `Create Note with a Question attachment`
# trwnh i'd really appreciate some clarification of how answers are supposed to be formulated, because mastodon does this really weird thing where the replies to the Question are the regular Notes, but to actually vote on the Question you have a pseudo replies collection attached to each oneOf/anyOf option and then a totalItems
# trwnh naively one would expect that the replies collection of a Question would include the actual answers, and not some other "unrelated" objects