#social 2020-01-11

2020-01-11 UTC
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fr33domlover
Hey people
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fr33domlover
In ForgeFed we're sort of stuck trying to make a decision we've been debating over for some weeks now, we really need help with this! Feedback would be so precious :) https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/who-hosts-the-object-author-or-access-control-authority/468
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aaronpk
Why not both?
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fr33domlover
aaronpk, explain :) there are many ways to interpret that
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fr33domlover
(to clarify, by "where to host object" I mean where the @id URL would be, that everyone would HTTP GET to see the object)
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jaywink[m]
in reality it will be hosted all around the federated web, but the `@id` is significant here, as the question :)
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nightpool[m]
I agree with aaronpk—if this is the singular question that's blocking further work on ForgeFed, then write the spec in a way that allows for both, and worry about unifying it later
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jaywink[m]
I guess that is a fair and new point into the discussion
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fr33domlover
nightpool[m], at this point this question affects most of the working, I've considered to continue with both but all the logic flows depend on that question :P
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fr33domlover
*wording
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fr33domlover
I mean, vocabulary doesn't but we're good with that part, ready soon to publish an initial draft with basic features
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fr33domlover
And we're stuck just on that one decision
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fr33domlover
It's been in the air all along except we had only 1 opinion (mine lol) until jaywink[m] added his :)
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fr33domlover
And not we have 2 options :P
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aaronpk
the problem is that they are both correct options
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fr33domlover
aaronpk, correct in which sense? And how would you compare them to a hypothetical 3rd option in which the hosting location can just be random and totally independent of who the author/authority is? Also, given 2 options, what would we suggest to people to implement? And if people implement only 1 of those, it can save work to ask people to support only 1 and not have to support both
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fr33domlover
(if the choice is arbitrary, let's stick to 1 option; if not arbitrary, let's figure out which one is better and we can require or at leas recommend it)
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melody
IMO without nomadic identity, alice should just have to have an account on bobnewspaper's instance, which can define its own internal editorial workflow and then would be the host, I'm not sure how much sense it makes for your example scenario to involve alice's server before publication at all -- i get that this is a simplification or an analogy to something that probably makes more sense but you may need an example closer to the real situation