#stream 2023-11-28

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Loqi [mastodon.social/@hammyhavoc] I've been a fan of RSS for almost a quarter of a century—IMO, it keeps the modern web useable—feels more relevant than ever with the Twitter/X mismanagement. Love FreshRSS.Recommend me your favourite RSS feeds! Even if they're yours, I want to know about them!Installing... (https://mastodon.social/@hammyhavoc/111485768566505561)
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Loqi [mastodon.social/@fromjason] Why do we confine ourselves to a handful of apps when the web is so gigantic? 
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[jacky] silos--
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Loqi [toot.jeena.net/@jeena] @imyaman I see you're also involved in similar things like me like #IndieWeb #Fediverse #programming #blogging etc.Have you seen this one Korean #Lemmy instance? https://lemmy.funami.tech/I have no idea who is hosting it and for how long they will have it up, it's the only... (https://toot.jeena.net/@jeena/111487985018975238)
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Loqi [beesbuzz.biz] Just the current haps, yo.... (http://beesbuzz.biz/blog/7067-What-time-is-it-Unstructured-rambling-time)
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Loqi [changelog.social/@changelog] "RSS should be used for so much more than just blog posts and statuses”#rss #indieweb #syndication #mastodon #fediverse #federatedhttps://colinwalker.blog/blog/?date=2023-11-19 (https://changelog.social/@changelog/111488758158685696)
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[jacky] ^ it really could be
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Loqi [indieweb.social/@janboddez] “IndieBlocks v0.10.0”I should probably blog about this over at the IndieBlocks website, but whatever. So, what’s new in version 0.10.0? Well, webmentions for replies. That is, the plugin is now able to also send webmentions for comments that themselves are replies to a... (https://indieweb.social/@janboddez/111489392237956486)
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Loqi IndieBlocks v0.10.0I should probably blog about this over at the IndieBlocks website, but whatever. So, what’s new in version 0.10.0? Well, webmentions for replies. That is, […]https://jan.boddez.net/articles/indieblocks-v0-10-0 (https://jan.boddez.net/articles/indieblocks-v0-10-0)
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[tantek] [jacky] maybe? the last time that was seriously attempted ("RSS ... used for so much more than just blog posts and statuses") we got Atom, then Activity Streams / Atom, then hfeed + hentry, then Activity Streams / JSON, then h-feed + h-entry, then Activity Streams 2 / JSON(-LD)
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[tantek] what is RSS optimism
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "RSS optimism" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "RSS optimism is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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aaronpk i'm pretty sure when people say that, it's more about the general idea of hosting a feed at a website vs the actual format itself
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[tantek] I still need to write that up, both the sociological phenomenon of posts like "RSS should be used for so much more…", and the historical reality of paths already taken
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[tantek] aaronpk, I'm pretty sure the people who say "RSS should…" are NOT referring to AS2/JSON(-LD) or even JSONFeed
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[jacky] we could ask them? 🤷
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[jacky] for clarity as least
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aaronpk i don't really want to re-start the RSS/Atom wars
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[jacky] provokes it with the impeding release of RAtom 3.1
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aaronpk oh no
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barnaby I don’t think I’ve ever heard of ratom
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barnaby it sounds like a pokemon
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aaronpk what about JARtom -- JSON serialization of Atom over RSS
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[jacky] wait lol
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[jacky] I wonder _how_ doable that is lol
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[jacky] cursed projects
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[KevinMarks] that's the gdata format
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[KevinMarks] it's not pretty
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[KevinMarks] https://developers.google.com/gdata/docs/json
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[KevinMarks] there was a reason I rejected it as the json serialisation for OpenSocial/AS1
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[KevinMarks] ```{
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[KevinMarks] "version": "1.0",
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[KevinMarks] "feed": {
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[KevinMarks] "encoding": "UTF-8",
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[KevinMarks] "xmlns": "http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom",
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[KevinMarks] "xmlns$openSearch": "http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/",
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[KevinMarks] "xmlns$gd": "http://schemas.google.com/g/2005",
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[KevinMarks] "xmlns$gCal": "http://schemas.google.com/gCal/2005",
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[KevinMarks] "id": {"$t": "..."},
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[KevinMarks] "updated": {"$t": "2006-11-12T21:25:30.000Z"},
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[KevinMarks] "title": {
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[jacky] oof
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aaronpk don’t forget to wrap it all in RSS too
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[jacky] so then would the XML be like a container for the JSON
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[jacky] or are we convertin this _from_ JSON to XML? lol
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[jacky] the tempting this about this is that if I could find a "unified" representation, I could pipe in JSON and output XML easily
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[KevinMarks] that was what the googlers liked about it as reversible abstractions were their idea of fun. As a structure to be read by javascript developers in 2007 it wouldn't fly. But that was a huge internal fight that got me reorged into devrel
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Loqi [snarfed.org] Hi! I’m Ryan. I’ve been building social network bridges and related tools for over 12 years, including Bridgy, which connects personal web sites and blogs to centralized social networks, and Bridgy Fed, which connects them to the fediverse.... (https://snarfed.org/2023-11-27_re-introducing-bridgy-fed)
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[tantek] Lol that featured image [snarfed] 🤣
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[tantek] [snarfed]++ great post.
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