#wordpress 2017-06-27

2017-06-27 UTC
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[pfefferle]
good morning WPlers
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[pfefferle]
keeping up with the discussions on GitHub
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[pfefferle]
I love the new enthusiasm!
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Loqi
[dshanske] #30 Microformats 2 Rendering
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GWG
I think I've come down from the post-Indieweb Summit high
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[miklb]
I don’t have a lot to contribute to that conversation at this point, but am following along.
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GWG
I just want a solution. snarfed had to install a feature in Micropub to override Post Kinds on checkins as it doesn't support them. The problem being, based on the current design, it means I need to give him a PR to get that out if I ever do finish checkin work.
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GWG
Whereas a filter/registration system would mean I wouldn't.
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[miklb]
that’s just going to be an on-going inherent problem as long as all of the plugins are developed individually without a master roadmap. It’s going to require a lot of communication and some give and take on all sides IMO.
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GWG
Which is what we're discussing.
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GWG
I think snarfed, pfefferle, and myself are communicative about it and will agree on something.
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[miklb]
And that’s great.
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[miklb]
And the bonus of tackling such a hard problem now is it will make it easier for another dev to come along and build new tools to be interoperable.
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GWG
Once we agree, we document in the wiki
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[miklb]
can I just say I love reading the issues in a Slack channel and not having to go to GitHub to keep up ?
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david.shanske.com
edited /WordPress/Data (-193) "/* Taxonomies */"
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[miklb]
omg that’s awesome
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david.shanske.com
edited /WordPress/Data (-164) "/* Post Kinds Plugin */"
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GWG
What itch should I scratch next?
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tantek
What's next on your itches list?
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GWG
Needs updating
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GWG
I was just working on the WordPress Data page.
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tantek
"needs updating" sounds like an itch!
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GWG
We're trying to standardize a bit, pfefferle, snarfed and myself
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tantek
sounds sensible
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GWG
The problem is between snarfed and myself. He used Micropub JSON for nested properties and I used jf2 like structure.
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GWG
I need to figure out how to address
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GWG
I am not sure the best way, but it stopped my checkins work
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ben_thatmustbeme
GWG would be happy to review changes back to JF2
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ben_thatmustbeme
especially if youa re all standardizing implementations
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GWG
The issue is what to adopt though
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GWG
I need to talk to snarfed
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GWG
He did it because he was Implementating Micropub.
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GWG
I wasn't
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GWG
Which is better is a debate
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GWG
I like to flatten
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GWG
This is a problem of independent projects with common data sets
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GWG
I suppose either way, all plugins need to check for properties in an array and react appropriately
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dougbeal|iOS
o/
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ben_thatmustbeme
hmm, this seems really out of date, links to 0.3 and also doesn't seem to be true anymore either https://en.support.wordpress.com/pubsubhubbub/
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GWG
Back from the air
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[miklb]
ben_thatmustbeme hard to say, that’s wp.com
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ben_thatmustbeme
don't know who to nudge on that one
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[miklb]
@bjkraft has been around, he works for automattic on jetpack, so might have some info on that.
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[miklb]
and is also very interested in IW.
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[chrisaldrich]
iirc @bjkraft was considering doing some update work on the WP websub plugin and pfefferle had lined him about his version which he'd updated a month ago.
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[miklb]
yay! got some insight on how I might build a them that requires some of the IW plugins and not require a user to use SFTP to install it.
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GWG
How?
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[miklb]
there’s an upload plugin/file option, and then you can use transient_update_themes and point to your own zip
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[miklb]
that’s a super simple explanation of course.
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[miklb]
But that way I could build the theme I want to build, users wouldn’t have to use SFTP, just download a zip and upload through admin, and then get updates normally.
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[miklb]
technically could be used for a true IW installer that does auto-install/activate other plugins, but I understand the desire for the plugin to be in wp.org repo.
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