#wordpress 2017-11-17

2017-11-17 UTC
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[miklb] no, sorry this is slowing you up. do you know what version of flavor of linux you are running? Debian/Ubuntu or RedHat/CentOS? http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/kb/article/how-to-enable-mbstring-in-php-46.html
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[miklb] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8266396/mb-convert-encoding-undefined-function-while-mbstring-is-enabled/19728019#19728019 has examples of installing on both if you look at the comments too
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[miklb] second link I meant to paste
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upon2020.com created /Tutorial:_Set_up_an_IndieWebSite_using_Wordpress_on_the_Amazon_cloud (+1490) "work in progress" (view diff)
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[miklb] not to be pedantic j12t but it is capital P - WordPress
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[mrkrndvs] Sorry miklb not sure where I find that. I am with Reclaim Hosting if that helps with anything.
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[miklb] I would send a support request to the hosting company asking them if they can install mbstring
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GWG I'm looking at Post Kinds for the first time in days.
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j12t miklb: you are right
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upon2020.com created /Tutorial:_Set_up_an_IndieWebSite_using_WordPress_on_the_Amazon_cloud (+1490) "WordPress not Wordpress" (view diff)
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upon2020.com uploaded /File:wordpress-72x72.png "WordPress logo https://indieweb.org/File:wordpress-72x72.png"
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upon2020.com edited /Tutorial:_Set_up_an_IndieWebSite_using_WordPress_on_the_Amazon_cloud (+88) "Added links" (view diff)
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[mrkrndvs] Done, thank you miklb
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[miklb] GWG I’m seeing checkins now in mf2_post branch. Thanks!
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GWG [miklb]: I merged the branch into stable.
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[miklb] mf2_post is now in master?
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GWG [miklb]: Correct
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[miklb] seems like it. OK, I’m on master on my live site. I’ll kick the tires so more
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[miklb] s/so/some/
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GWG I'm thinking of pushing it to wordpress.org
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GWG Maybe I'll wait till tomorrow
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GWG I'm moving into compliance testing for Simple Location.
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GWG The same testing I added to the other plugins.
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[mrkrndvs] The response I got from my company was to look in the error log. I came across this: 'mb_convert_encoding(): Illegal character encoding specified in .../public_html/wp-content/plugins/webmention/includes/class-webmention-sender.php on line 258'
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[mrkrndvs] Diving into the error log and finding a range of references to semantic linkback, such as this 'The called constructor method for WP_Widget in BWP_RC_Widget is <strong>deprecated</strong> since version 4.3.0! Use <pre>__construct()</pre> instead. in /home/readwrit/public_html/wp-includes/functions.php on line 3894'
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[miklb] mrkrndvs can you paste the error log in a gist?
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GWG BWP_RC_Widget isn't any of ours.
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GWG It is apparently a plugin called Better WordPress Recent Comments
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[miklb] mrkrndvs I’m not sure threads in Slack convert to IRC so better to just stick to main thread so everyone else can see it and maybe help
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upon2020.com edited /Tutorial:_Set_up_an_IndieWebSite_using_WordPress_on_the_Amazon_cloud (+74) "Fix link" (view diff)
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[mrkrndvs] Ok, sorry miklb. Have deactivated that plugin now @GWG and here is a link to the Error Log https://gist.github.com/mrkrndvs/4c93f4e1c2df7812496fe7fa92ed7a67
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[miklb] hmm. no fatal errors.
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[miklb] mrkrndvs so webmentions work if you disable semantic linkbacks? Your issue doesn’t seem to be related to the mbstring extension. Not seeing anything that should break in that log
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[mrkrndvs] Hmmm, I wonder if it may be the comment widget. Will reactivate Semantic Linkbacks and do some more tinkering. Thank you all and sorry
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[miklb] no need to apologize. Thanks for your patience while trying to debug.
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[jeremycherfas] chrisaldrich That’s exactly what I want to avoid. They are sufficiently few that I would forget what I was doing each time. My current solution works, but could be improved by filtering on the class of the comment, if I can figure that out.
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[chrisaldrich] jeremycherfas I can appreciate that. I too find it relatively infrequent, so switching them occasionally isn't too onerous. At least you've got a workable solution.
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[chrisaldrich] mrkrndvs++ for tinkering
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[chrisaldrich] mrkrndvs Another random thing which may be causing your issue is JetPack which for some pieces tries to completely take over your "comments" section and doesn't allow other plugins to play nicely.
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[chrisaldrich] I can't imagine it would be causing webmentions to fail altogether, but I've reported a related issue here: https://github.com/Automattic/jetpack/issues/7357#issuecomment-309192660
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Loqi [kraftbj] As an aside, I haven't written this up yet for internal discussion, but I would like us to evaluate the "modern" open web standards that are coming out -- webmentions, websub (formerly PubSubHubbub), jsonfeed, etc -- and see how we/WP.com could play ...
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[chrisaldrich] miklb mrkrndvs For the record, I think the threading piece for slack to IRC was fixed when it was added. In my experience threading *should* work and the additional comments are just dumped into the end of the IRC chat.
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www.boffosocko.com edited /Tutorial:_Set_up_an_IndieWebSite_using_WordPress_on_the_Amazon_cloud (+258) "stub; pagelogo; categories, WordPress template" (view diff)
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wagle anyone want to guess how I, a year ago, setup foo.com and www.foo.com to point to the same multisite wordpress?
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wagle (i gave it more names, and now am trying to get that to work)
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[chrisaldrich] I'll bit wagle, how?
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[chrisaldrich] s/bit/bite
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[mrkrndvs] chrisaldrich hmmm, I need to work out why I like Jetpack and see what it would mean to jettison it. I think that has been the inadvertent side effect of going indie. It has forced me to rethink why and how I do what I do
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[chrisaldrich] JetPack does have some useful bits and bobs, but it can be selfish at times in the way it does things.
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[mrkrndvs] chrisaldrich I couldn't get both my sites working in regards to webmentions. Thought it wasn't possible. So now that I know it is, I will dig around a bit.
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[chrisaldrich] I've found that I've gone from all-in on a lot of JetPack features to fewer and fewer over the years. One day I may uninstall it altogether.
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[chrisaldrich] So you managed to get both of them working with Webmentions again?
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[mrkrndvs] @chrisaldrich If I don't use JetPack, can I still blog via a mobile app?
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[mrkrndvs] I haven't turned things on and tinkered again TBH.
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wagle [chrisaldrich]: dunno, trying to remember
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[chrisaldrich] mrkrndvs I should think you would be able to, if not, you could keep JetPack installed for that reason, but disable some of the individual pieces you don't need/want.
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[chrisaldrich] Often I'll just use a mobile optimized admin page to do the same thing instead of using the official app and find it to be just as good.
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[chrisaldrich] Have you been able to log yourself into the IndieWeb wiki and create a user page there?
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[mrkrndvs] chrisaldrich ignore that question. Just realised I can blog in the browser. I'm liking Zenpress pfefferle. Loaded it in my collect.readwriterespond.com
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[chrisaldrich] That does look very slick Aaron.
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[chrisaldrich] pfefferle++ for ZenPress
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Loqi pfefferle has 8 karma in this channel (38 overall)
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[chrisaldrich] What is ZenPress?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "ZenPress" yet. Would you like to create it?
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[chrisaldrich] ZenPress is a clean [[WordPress]] theme inspired by Medium.com. It is SEO optimized, accessibility ready and highly semantic. The is made with HTML5 (POSH) and flavoured with Microformats(2) and Microdata/Schema.org.
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Loqi ok
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[mrkrndvs] Oops, sorry. Not yet.
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[chrisaldrich] mrkrndvs No worries. Let us know if you need help doing it.
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[chrisaldrich] It looks like you've got /rel-me on your pages, so you should be able to authenticate automatically with twitter to login.
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[chrisaldrich] What is wikifying?
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Loqi wikifying is the practice of capturing information and ideas on the wiki https://indieweb.org/wikifying
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[chrisaldrich] What is WordPress Troubleshooting?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "WordPress Troubleshooting" yet. Would you like to create it?
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[chrisaldrich] WordPress Troubleshooting is a list of things one can try when asking for help from the [[WordPress_Outreach_Club]].
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /WordPress_Troubleshooting (+143) "prompted by [chrisaldrich] and dfn added by [chrisaldrich]" (view diff)
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www.boffosocko.com edited /WordPress_Troubleshooting (+2772) "stub; emojicon; basic outline; Category: WordPress" (view diff)
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[mrkrndvs] chrisaldrich so would my "user" page be located at: https://indieweb.org/User:Www.readwriterespond.com
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[chrisaldrich] Once you've logged into the wiki with your domain name, there will be a (red) link in the top right that links to your user page which you can then add details to. (And it would likely be just that url if you log in with that domain.)
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[chrisaldrich] This should help a bit: https://indieweb.org/wikify#Wikify_yourself
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[chrisaldrich] mrkrndvs Feel free to ask questions if you need help with the Mediawiki syntax. That page ^^ has some good examples though.
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[chrisaldrich] As I'm sure you've seen, Loqi will help you a bit too if you ask direct questions.
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[chrisaldrich] Who is Loqi?
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Loqi Loqi is a friendly and useful bot present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/User:Loqi.me
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[chrisaldrich] mrkrndvs Which city are you in?
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[mrkrndvs] Melbourne, Australia
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[chrisaldrich] I know there are a few closer to your timezone in IndieWeb including Malcolm Blaney, Richard MacManus, and Bill Bennett, but even Malcolm is in Brisbane which is pretty far for a /Homebrew_Website_Club.
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[mrkrndvs] chrisaldrich I made a start to my user page. I know that I need to elaborate further.
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[chrisaldrich] mrkrndvs++ for /User:Www.readwriterespond.com
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[pfefferle] chrisaldrich++ thanks for creating the ZenPress page!
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[mrkrndvs] Yes chrisaldrich Brisbane is pretty far ??‍♂️
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[chrisaldrich] okay, I can't see straight anymore... goodnight indiewebs....
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[chrisaldrich] mrkrndvs Glad you've found the chat and are hopefully getting things worked out.
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[chrisaldrich] Oh, mrkrndvs I just saw your subscription question in the main chat... yes, you should be able to do some custom subscription stuff.
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[chrisaldrich] I think I have an RSS subscription link in the header of my WordPress site for my Known install which is at another host altogether.
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[chrisaldrich] I documented some of it at http://boffosocko.com/2016/12/18/rss-feeds-a-follow-up-on-my-indieweb-commitment-2017/.
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Loqi [Chris Aldrich] RSS Feeds: A Follow up on My IndieWeb Commitment 2017
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[chrisaldrich] Tinyletter may have a WordPress plugin to allow you to move easily. Or you could use mailchimp or another service which do have WordPress related integrations for newsletters.
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[chrisaldrich] I'm sure there are multiple ways to do it, but my mind is getting foggy now. Off to bed.
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[mrkrndvs] chrisaldrich thank you. Not rushing to do it now. Just an itch.
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GWG Morning
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Loqi *yawn*
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[miklb] !tell wagle probably where your DNS settings are. An A record for foo.com and CNAME for the www
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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wagle [miklb]: no,thats not it (alreadychecked that)
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Loqi wagle: [miklb] left you a message 39 minutes ago: probably where your DNS settings are. An A record for foo.com and CNAME for the www
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[miklb] then do you have some kind of domain mapping plugin installed wagle? I can’t remember if that was added to core for multisite or not. I’ve not used it in a long time.
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wagle [miklb]: not finding how / where to configure it... but possibly
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wagle i think its core
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[miklb] wagle https://codex.wordpress.org/WordPress_Multisite_Domain_Mapping Network admin -> Sites
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wagle [miklb]: I stated the problem wrong, sorry: I want baz.net and www.baz.net to mp to foo.com
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wagle [miklb]: I stated the problem wrong, sorry: I want baz.net and www.baz.net to map to foo.com, like www.foo.com does automagically
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[miklb] oh
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wagle i confused myself, hence my trouble
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[miklb] I think that’s called domain forwarding
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[miklb] some name registrars offer that. It can be done with htaccess in Apache iirc
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[miklb] I’m sure nginx rules can be set up to forward as well
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wagle i thought baz.com -> foo.com would work the same as www.foo.com -> foo.com
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wagle but the latter is automagick
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wagle so i'm scratching my head
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[miklb] correct. You can point an A record for the baz.com to the same IP as foo.com
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tantek it's not automagick, it's a default that someone configured (perhaps your DNS provider or hosting provider) that you can similarly configure for other (sub)domains
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[miklb] plus you need a rule in your apache/nginx conf to reroute the WWW traffic
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[miklb] So a CNAME and then the server level rule
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tantek what is a CNAME
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "CNAME" yet. Would you like to create it?_
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tantek hmm
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wagle automagick -> done automatically with no apparent reason (or config)
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wagle www.foo.com and foo.com are now just A's pointing to the same ip address. nginx treats them as the same server. wordpress handles that
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wagle baz.com is also a A pointing to that ipaddress, nginx treats it the same as www.foo.com, but wp gets confused
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sknebel wagle: sounds like the easiest would be to put baz.com www.baz.com on their own nginx <server> block and redirect to foo.com in that
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sknebel (assuming I understood correctly that you want a redirect, and not treat it differently in WP)
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wagle maybe, but gotta take off now
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GWG Moved into making Simple Location compatible with PHP 5.3-4, which apparently it wasn't
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