#wordpress 2018-01-27

2018-01-27 UTC
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j12t Wordpress seems to have this concept of a "Format". I don't know whether that's a code WP idea, or just something themes do. But my theme has a long list, like Standard, Aside, Gallery, Link, Image, Quote, Status, Video, Audio and Chat (?!).
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j12t It seems there's a large overlap to Post Kinds?
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GWG j12t, Kinds is a replacement for format which is not extensible
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Loqi GWG: tantek left you a message 44 minutes ago: FYI: https://gregorlove.com/2017/12/indieweb-wordpress-feedback/
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tantek is there some way to parse out gRegorLove's blog post into either a series of wiki changes or issues (new or comments on) on various indieweb wp plugins?
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tantek would be great to capture each of his observations / suggestions in such a way that they can be individually worked on
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j12t What about adding to https://indieweb.org/WordPress/usability ?
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tantek WordPress/usability << https://gregorlove.com/2017/12/indieweb-wordpress-feedback/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://gregorlove.com/2017/12/indieweb-wordpress-feedback/" to a new "See Also" section of /WordPress/usability
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loqi.me edited /WordPress/usability (+159) "/* tantek added "https://gregorlove.com/2017/12/indieweb-wordpress-feedback/" to "See Also" */ new section" (view diff)
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] IndieWeb WordPress Feedback
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j12t gRegorLove++
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Loqi gregorlove has 1 karma in this channel (216 overall)
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gRegorLove GWG saw that post at the time (few weeks old now) and I think most of them were on his radar, but not sure if they're in issue trackers yet.
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gRegorLove I just realized today I hadn't submitted to indienews :)
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j12t I've been trying to make the pinboard theme speak microformats. I notice that the syndication-links plugin seems to put its thing ("<ul class=relsyn...") into my <div class=e-content... But all that the theme has is basically "<div class=e-content><?php the_content(); ?></div>
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j12t So Q: how does the syndication-links plugin decide where to put its stuff, and how can I keep it from polluting my e-content? (At least I suppose that's what's supposed to be happening?)
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j12t Example: https://upon2020.com/blog/2018/01/test-3-please-ignore/
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[miklb] j12t I would change that class from e-content to something else and then use a function similar to this https://gist.github.com/miklb/dee0edc9aa75693e27f7a0cc88e16a06 to wrap the WordPress $content in e-content, that way Syndication Links doesn’t get inserted into the e-content class
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[miklb] other option would be to look at not automatically inserting the syndication links and manually add the function in your theme outside of e-content wrapper
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[miklb] but I suspect you could run into other plugins possibly inserting its content there
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GWG That's why I went with a wrapper at a high priority. It is more reliable. Although I did manually add plugin support to many themes
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jeremycherfas I have a WP site that is not my main site. I'd like to indiewebify it, but there are no other sites that I want to link back to it, so I don't think the /Wordpress_IndieAuth_Plugin will work for me. Is there a best option? H-card on an about page? Something else?
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GWG What do you need Indieauth for?
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jeremycherfas So that I can, for example, send notification of replies via Telegram.
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Zegnat You can login to Telegraph with your main domain and add a secondary site I belief
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Zegnat Oh, you said Telegram, never mind me.
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GWG Indieauth doesn't require rel me
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GWG You can log into Indieauth any way you want if the server supports it.
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aaronpk wait GWG did you already fix the wordpress indieauth plugin to support that?
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GWG aaronpk, it supports any Indieauth authorization Endpoint, but I didn't yet build one
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GWG But I was thinking pgp or such
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aaronpk ok then it's not really a good solution for what jeremycherfas wants yet
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GWG I wasn't suggesting it.
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GWG I was more pointing out rel me isn't a requirement
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jeremycherfas No zegnat, you are right. I meant Telegraph.
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Zegnat You don’t need a second login to Telegraph I think (aaronpk?)
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Zegnat Just login with your main site, then hit your icon in the right top and add another site.
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aaronpk correct, you can add a new site once you're logged in with your main site
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aaronpk and even that is just for organizational purposes. you can use your login to send from whatever site you want
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aaronpk it gives you a new api key to use for each site in case you're using the api for example, and then the logs will appear split between the two sites
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GWG I am confused
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jeremycherfas Wait. What?Live and learn.
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GWG WordPress has an webmentions plugin, why do you need another one?
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GWG I am missing something
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jeremycherfas Because I am trying to understand each bit of the WP puzzle. I don't want to receive back-feeds from any of the silos just yet. And I have nowhere to syndicate to.
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jeremycherfas So, for now I am adding the mf2 by hand and sending the webmentions by hand too.
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[miklb] the webmention plugin won’t do backfeed on its own
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jeremycherfas I appreciate that. I can't help it that I want to understand all the many bits and the complex ways in which they fit together.
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GWG I've never thought as Telegraph as part of the puzzle though. That's what I'm trying to understand.
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[miklb] sends/receives webmentions. So if you don’t have something like bridgy set up, it will only send webmentions and receive
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jeremycherfas I like to use Telegraph for sending things from sites that only occasionally have anything that needs sending. And now that I know I can send from any site, that's all I need.
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GWG Oh
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jeremycherfas I may extend some IndieWeb functionality later
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GWG Will be getting back to metabox fixes for Simple Location after I finish cleaning up the networking project
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