#wordpress 2018-04-15

2018-04-15 UTC
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[jgmac1106] @gwg just tested. Selected a note but added a photo. That made it a photo post kind. Checked in Wordpress and the correct post kind is now publishing. Can't hand;e portrait photos but I haven't checked to see if somebody already created an issue
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GWG Portrait photos?
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[jgmac1106] Landscape versus Portrait
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[jgmac1106] I shot a photo vertically. It gets rotated
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[jgmac1106] Looking at what [chrisaldrich] does all I need to to do is not publish the "post" page and then just make a new page and create links to different feeds, that seems eaier than trying to figure out how just to publish post kind "article"
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[miklb] try /kind/article/feed
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GWG Feed is the RSS
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[jgmac1106] Thx [miklb] debating whether to just surface articles or make a menu of feeds. Kinda still leaning on using Known sites for my status update like posts but should give the whole WP thing the college try
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[miklb] sure, just pointing out that the article feed is already there
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[miklb] ’seems easier than trying to figure out how just to publish post kind “article”"
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GWG [jgmac1106]: What do you want exactly? Do you want a menu of links to different parts of your website, or do you want to exclude certain things?
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[jgmac1106] @gwg just playing now. In essence what I want is to discover what I want. Originally I was playing with the idea of not changing anything and just creating a filter so only post kind article publishes on the post page. I was never successful I went lookin at Chris's source code and its nothing fancy at all. List items, icons, and a bunch of rss feeds. Very doable. Probably going to throw up a page
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[miklb] I’d be happy to help whip up a WP Query if you are talking about what to display on home apge
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GWG [miklb]: He has it on a /posts page
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[jgmac1106] [miklb] that wasn't my issue I am trying to ONLY have articles post to that page. I read up queries. Those looked easy to write. Will try it myself before asking for a hand [miklb] (usually doesn't take long). Today I am making a survey for a client . They never understand what it truly takes. The content validity, the factor analysis, etc. They just say, "make items" and skip all the steps. Might as well make a website that generates
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[jgmac1106] and conclusions for them. May get back to indieweb playing tonight
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[miklb] ok
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GWG just spent too much time fiddling with svn and bash
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GWG Trying to write a better deployment script than the stock one I sort of borrowed from pfefferle.
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[pfefferle] "Version bump due some individuals not getting template file" 😄
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GWG [pfefferle] Can you look at that deployment script I started? I am woefully rusty on bash and svn? I tried to use existing scripts to create what was needed.
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GWG snarfed's script relies on a working directory I don't have.
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GWG Not sure how your svn and bash are though
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GWG Also, will remove the internationalized service names. You reviewed that back in February and didn't comment then or I would have waited for another review
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GWG [pfefferle] Also, do you have a moment to talk GPDR, curious what you were thinking.
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[pfefferle] GWG where can I find the script?
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GWG https://github.com/dshanske/simple-location/blob/master/push.sh
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GWG I tried it out in one of my other plugins
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[pfefferle] regarding the translations: no problem... I got some feedback from a german core translator the other day, to simplify the plugin a bit
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[pfefferle] does it work?
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GWG pfefferle, it does.
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[pfefferle] nice! will try it myself!
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GWG It has some nice features I borrowed, like version checking between readme and main file
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[pfefferle] ok, nice
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GWG If you have any feedback, tell me. I want to keep iterating
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GWG Also supports assets, I think
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[pfefferle] !
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[pfefferle] perhaps we can start an indieweb-wordpress-plugin-boilerplate repo
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[pfefferle] https://github.com/indiewordpress/plugin-boilerplate
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[miklb] +1 to that idea
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GWG I would contribute. I took a lot of my design from you
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[pfefferle] 😉
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GWG It is usually, pfefferle did x... sounds good to me.
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GWG I wouldn't mind a nice base.
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GWG Especially considering I am thinking of starting a new POSSE plugin
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[pfefferle] cool
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[pfefferle] what about GDPR?
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GWG What are you thinking you want to do in Semantic Linkbacks? Privacy policy is what I think makes sense
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[pfefferle] we should add filters, so that we import only stuff that is used by an other plugin
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[pfefferle] like for example geo data
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Loqi I agree
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[pfefferle] so that you can enable it with simple locations
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[pfefferle] thanks Loqi
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Loqi you're welcome
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[pfefferle] and yes, we should suppot the data-privacy features, that WordPress implements
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[pfefferle] perhaps we should/must write some exporters or features to delete comments
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GWG I need to figure out privacy for Simple Location as well.
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GWG Delete I think, but we support deleting webmentions, don't we?
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[pfefferle] sure
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[pfefferle] good point
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[pfefferle] I fear that brid.gy is no longer possible for EU citizens after GDPR starts
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GWG I deal with GPDR questions at work a bit, as I work for an affected company, but I am taking it from an outside perspective.
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GWG In my opinion, stating usage and giving more control should address the issue
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GWG So, we need to state what we store and how to send a webmention to purge it.
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[pfefferle] 👍
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GWG I think, regardless, that is the best first steps
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GWG Privacy policy + documentation
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GWG Did anyone ask snarfed about how to purge the data on his end?
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GWG https://brid.gy/about#gdpr
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GWG He covers it, good
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[pfefferle] I think the data is not the main problem... brid.gy is copying data from Social networks without telling the users.
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[pfefferle] That is crucial
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GWG The sending users?
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[snarfed] yup. actually a bigger question than GDPR or bridgy. https://indieweb.org/backfeed#Storage.2C_legal.2C_data_ownership.2C_UX...
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GWG I just was hoping to avoid that issue as much as possible.
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[jgmac1106] ping doug belshaw. He is currently doing work for moodle on creating a social network and has had to do extensive GDPR training with a very similar lens
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[snarfed] honestly we're probably overthinking all this. in practice i expect none of us will actually get any requests or complaints, and if eventually one of us does, we can figure it out then
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[miklb] that’s going to be my approach
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[snarfed] let it be a tax on just bigger commercial players, not us
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GWG [snarfed]: My plan with [pfefferle]'s concern was to add the ability for the site owner to more easily purge, add documentation about how to send a delete webmention, and some settings about the level of detail saved.
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GWG And maybe a privacy page
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[snarfed] sounds good, but also sounds worth punting on indefinitely, until someone asks for it
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[snarfed] up to you though!
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GWG [snarfed]: pfefferle asked. It isn't as much as it sounds.
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GWG Writing some instructions and adding some settings.
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