#wordpress 2018-05-11

2018-05-11 UTC
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[chrisaldrich] [kimberlyhirsh] [jhsheridan] I've recomended it to others, but GWG did a conversion of the 2016 theme to be more compatible with various indieweb pieces. The list of changes he made can be very instructive depending on your level of themeing ability: https://github.com/dshanske/twentysixteen-indieweb/commits/master
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GWG Hello, [chrisaldrich]
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[chrisaldrich] a lot of the heavy surgery in his changes relates to replacing the native Post Formats for Post Kinds, so those could be skipped.
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[chrisaldrich] Evening GWG!
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GWG It wasn't that heavy
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GWG I need to do some tweaks on my theme though
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[chrisaldrich] it wasn't too heavy, but I remember it being about 25% of the overall changes maybe?
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GWG I also want to finish the privacy and Webmention work
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[chrisaldrich] If one isn't excising post formats, it cuts down on the changes one needs to make to a reasonably modern theme.
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[chrisaldrich] I remember someone asking about web actions earlier this week in the #wordpress channel. Other than Mathia's plugin adding some of the markup pieces, has anyone done anything with making them more directly usable?
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GWG chrisaldrich, I did
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GWG But that plugin is broken and unusable.
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GWG I should fix it.
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[chrisaldrich] could be an interesting tie in with post kinds?
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GWG The plugin was where I originally wrote the parsing code before I moved it into Post Kinds
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[chrisaldrich] evolution++
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Loqi evolution has 1 karma
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GWG chrisaldrich, I am going to wind down my current stuff
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[chrisaldrich] GWG is the best plate juggler I know.
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GWG Wait till I spin them?
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[chrisaldrich] I'll bring the spinning poles Mr. Vaudeville.
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GWG What are your itches?
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[chrisaldrich] I really want to make some standard themes 2011-2017 a bit more indieweb friendly... spend some time doing more editing on the book... get indiewebwp moving (still somehow haven't gotten the password)... add Want Kind posts... documentation, documentation, documentation, and a few more how-to videos
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GWG Want Kind?
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[chrisaldrich] I feel like I should be using micropub apps more too....
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[chrisaldrich] What is want?
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Loqi want is a rare post type on the indieweb, where the author posts something (acquisition) or experience (book to read, movie to watch, venue to checkin, food/dish they'd like to try) they want get or do https://indieweb.org/want
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[chrisaldrich] I thought I'd put together most of the code and a template before asking to reserve it....
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GWG How is that not wish?
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[chrisaldrich] they're similar, but somewhat semantically different...
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GWG Acquisition?
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[chrisaldrich] I might have a book on my wish list, then get it for my birthday (acquisiton), but it could still be on my want (to read) list as well.
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GWG I have to fix read
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[chrisaldrich] I'm still thinking about the differences in the three and how to best use them before I dive in head first
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[chrisaldrich] what's wrong with read?
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[chrisaldrich] I've been thinking about how to better delineate reads between books, magazines, newspapers, online web pages as well as meta-data for ISBNs for actual books.
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[chrisaldrich] I still think authors in most kinds don't show the wrapped URL links unless there's a photo. Would be nice if they'd link in cases where the photo doesn't exist.
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[chrisaldrich] GWG, with IWS coming up, perhaps this week we should discuss community and how to participate, get involved, and navigate wiki, chat, etc.? Unless something else exciting pops up....
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GWG Ok
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[chrisaldrich] GWG, is it just me or did the icons for the Syndication LInks all get significantly smaller in the last update, or did something change accidentally. I've gone from "small" to "large" just to be able to see them.
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jgmac1106 Got a question from a student. Has anyone done any work or is it even possible to syndicate from WordPres to BandCamp?
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[miklb] [chrisaldrich] yes, he dropped the size so in feeds the svg icon wouldn’t be so huge.
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[miklb] easier to control the size in CSS in theme than deal with a large size coded into the svg
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[chrisaldrich] thanks [miklb]! Now to fix the author photo sizes in feeds from Post Kinds which can vary widely as well.
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[chrisaldrich] [miklb] while I'm thinking about it, I still don't think I've seen the account details for indiewp, but have some time to play around with it shortly.
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[jgmac1106] [chrisaldrich] Going with a fixed pixel size or a width %?
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[chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] there's a few ways to do it, I just have to dig into how post kinds dovetails into the standard rss feeds to be able to tweak it.
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[chrisaldrich] may be better as a rem calculation as they're meant to be displayed as an inline /sparkline but not all feed readers may handle them the same way either....
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[chrisaldrich] may be beyond my pay grade?
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GWG I think I need to fix the default CSS in Syndication Links though
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GWG The author images need to be side loaded
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GWG miklb, the svgs are autogenerated now, so I could set the default size to anything.
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[jgmac1106] @gwg can you send me the link to css sheet in the repo? I can take a look
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[pfefferle] GWG I would love to provide a global functiomn for Webmention_Receiver::domain_whitelist_check
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[pfefferle] GWG any ideas how we should call it
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[pfefferle] GWG `is_webmention_source_domain_whitelisted` ???
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GWG That's long but works
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GWG pfefferle, I am not sure if there is anything else I should do in a PR before you push the two plugins
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[pfefferle] We can remove domain from the name?!?
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GWG Probably, because source is what it is looking for.
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[pfefferle] No problem... Release fast, release often
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GWG pfefferle, I want to come back after 4.9.6 and see about how I might hook in the new comment anonymization functions
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[pfefferle] Is there one?
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GWG Yes
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[pfefferle] Oh
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GWG https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/43545
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GWG Too many tickets to read through and no make post
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[pfefferle] Thanks
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GWG It doesn't do much, but I wanted to let it in since it is soon
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GWG The
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GWG The
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GWG options I am thinking of are for proxied webmentions, anonymize them, hide them, or reject them
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GWG Or my preference... show them
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GWG Then there is the question as to whether replies should be treated differently than other typed
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GWG At the least, I will make it easier for someone to not do something I want to do
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GWG I need to add privacy protections to Simple Location, and then my privacy work is done for now.
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GWG I can get back to sharing
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[miklb] [chrisaldrich] [pfefferle] GWG speaking of indiewp.com, it expires next week. I’ll renew, but if one of you want it, holler.
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GWG I still have not done anything there
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GWG I am still trying to decide on something to demo at IWS
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[miklb] when is that again?
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Loqi what
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[miklb] who?
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[miklb] what is IWS
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Loqi IndieWeb Summit 2018 is June 26-27, 2018 in Portland, Oregon; the eighth annual gathering for independent web creators of all kinds, graphic artists, designers, UX engineers, coders, hackers, to share ideas, create & improve their personal websites, and build upon each others creations https://indieweb.org/IWS
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GWG Any suggestions? I am not sure if I will get my POSSE project done
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GWG I am not sure I have a little project
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aaronpk make a large project into several smaller projects
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[colinwalker] GWG++ for help with extending the webmention plugin
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Loqi gwg has 60 karma in this channel (348 overall)
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GWG aaronpk, any ideas to inspire me?
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GWG I really want to finish the POSSE project, but it is just plumbing
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aaronpk how's the indieauth plugin? I lost track
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aaronpk I really want that to be solid
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GWG aaronpk, I have a bugfix to track down
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GWG Ruxton put me onto a possible explanation
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GWG aaronpk, but the biggest issue is this.... what should a client do if a token continues to be rejected?
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aaronpk show an error to the user?
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GWG aaronpk, I was thinking of OYS? Where it is automated?
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aaronpk ah, it should give up, then show a notice to the user
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aaronpk i think OYS does that
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GWG I am just wondering how to avoid individuals losing their OYS and OYG access without realizing why
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aaronpk bridgy has this same problem with posting to facebook
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GWG Wasn't snarfed going to send people a message using the Facebook API?
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aaronpk yes it does that
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GWG okay
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GWG Other than that confusion, and a few minor tweaks, what's wrong with the Indieauth plugin?
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aaronpk I don't know, but i feel like there were still a few people who still had problems?
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GWG I am working through them as they come up
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aaronpk i think i still need to debug this on OYG's side but this one is still unresolved and i'm not sure what the problem is https://github.com/aaronpk/OwnYourGram/issues/64
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Loqi [davidmead] #64 Nothing posted to blog from ownyourgram in over a month
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GWG Theories?
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aaronpk only thing i can think of on OYG's side is that it isn't actually saving the new token, but that would really surprise me if that was the case
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GWG I wonder then
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