#wordpress 2018-07-09

2018-07-09 UTC
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[miklb] before I look at writing one, has anyone done any work that takes a note with a markdown link and removes it and add it to the end as an excerpt so that keeps syndicated to Twitter via bridgy?
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[miklb] I think micro.blog does something similar with it’s internal Twitter syndication.
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[colinwalker] I just submitted a PR for Semantic Linkbacks - there’s a double colon missing which causes errors when comment email notifications are turned on. https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/pull/198
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Loqi [colin-walker] #198 Update class-linkbacks-notifications.php
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GWG I don't know how that happened. I tested that feature
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GWG But thanks.
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[colinwalker] No worries.
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[colinwalker] Will be able to close the related issue: https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/issues/197
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Loqi [colin-walker] #197 Fatal error submitting comment
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sknebel https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2018/07/wrapping-my-head-around-webmentions-pt-2/ <- they have a recent comment widget in the sidebar, and the author links there are marked "u-url" but not encapsulated in objects, so they leak as additional u-urls in the post content
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sknebel not sure what part of the ecosystem is responsible for those properties being marked up there?
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jgmac1106_ @sknebel we fidn that often happens when people put a sidebar on their posts in wordpress, it can lead to two h-cards, additional u-url, or u-photo and often ignroes the featured image photo if they include it, best advice now is no sidebar on post pages
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jgmac1106_ playing with the idea of the pagebuiler on the homepage and letting all the IndieWeb goodness haoppen on a different page: https://indieweb.jgregorymcverry.com/
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sknebel multiple h-cards are not really a problem, additional properties poses the question why the heck things add half-complete markup?
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jgmac1106_ Think this is what I will recommend my students tnew o blogging do for class, if they have an existing wordpress theme, gonna recommend a subdomain rather than play, “Get my theme to work”
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sknebel in general, that's a downside of the "h-entry on <body>" approach, but that might be necessary due to WPs hentry/hfeed classes?
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jgmac1106_ yeah really nowhere else to put it
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sknebel would be interesting to collect where these are coming from. part of it might be mf2 plugin, since that has no context available for where strings are used? (heavily guessing right now)
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jgmac1106_ Ton shouldn’t have mf2 installed since he is using compliant theme
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jgmac1106_ if he does that could be the issue, it does happen most often when people use sidepar widgets on posts
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jgmac1106_ he may have mf2 installed which can cause problems if using a native mf2 theme
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bradenslen good morning
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bradenslen This is probably not the right chat for this question but here goes: if you include your email address on your h-card what keeps spam bots from harvesting that address?
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sknebel nothing
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bradenslen heh thats why I haven't been including it but the validator at indiewebify.me dosen't like it.
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Lovi Ok, now I'm logged in. I'm so bummed, all my notes from IWC on treesheets vanished!
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Lovi I have a question about post kinds. I want to post a bunch of art, should I post each individual pic or, but it looks like I can post multiple pics and have them commented as a whole. I am confused because displaying art as a stream makes it difficult to introduce it. If I post multiple on one page, you could only indieweb comment on the whole thing.
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Lovi Does anyone have some approachable indie-web capable wordpress gallery ideas?
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jgmac1106__ [lovi] Working with you inspired me, here is my gallery view: http://jgregorymcverry.com/
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Loqi About Me Posts Web Annotations Image Credits Quick Thoughts Blog P+T Binder Publications Consulting Articles stream Listens RSVPs Jams Reads... http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/4b384615cd720bf8fa7ba8f8c1177649?s=128&d=http://jgregorymcverry.com/wp-content/plugins/semantic-linkbacks/img/mm.jpg&r=g
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jgmac1106__ but I would do each piece of art as a seperate photo kind and you can publish a portfolio or gallery of the posts
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Lovi yes! wait, how... As an article?
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jgmac1106__ I am using the elementor page builder it plays really nice with post kinds (requires the $39 pro version)
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Lovi okay lovi like page builders...
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jgmac1106__ I have wanted a visual theme forever, when you and I discovered idea of adding a page builder on home page and using a stream for indieweb stuff is my way forward
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jgmac1106__ lovi are you on chat.indieweb.org, irc, or Slack? Couldn’t DM you
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Lovi I'm logged in, I don't understand. Because I tried to enter the chat with my name before I was logged in.
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jgmac1106__ no problem at all, you can’t DM to the web client, what’s your email? I have a few extra page builder licenses if you want one
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Lovi lovi@tuta.io
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jgmac1106__ but been thinking about how to do gallery displays and image driven UI since you and I started hacking away on your site, finally had time to breath and play
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Lovi I've been summer biking and being a socialite.
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Lovi But yeah, I want to keep going with this, but I'm going to log out, phone conference :)
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jgmac1106__ enjoy, got to surf the actual ocean and not the web for a few days, but happy to keep developing page builder options, the elementor page builder works so well with taxonomies and archives
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jgmac1106__ I forget how do I fix a bridgy syndication to Twitter that shows my gravatar image when no featured image available, seems to be theme specific
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jgmac1106__ https://twitter.com/jgmac1106/status/1016395039252123651
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@jgmac1106 @mattl @evanpro @benwerd > > And those became IndieWeb Camps basically >> >> — Matt Lee (@mattl) July 9, 2018 See @benwerd comment about not male or programming centric events…isn’t always IWC, but changing that major goal of 2018. Trying to organize an IndieWebCamp in NYC… https://www.brid.gy/publish/twitter https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dhr15tAVMAA3u5V.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1016395039252123651)
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sknebel yeah, that's the same mixed property issue: u-photo on your profile photo, but no h-card wrapping it
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jgmac1106__ let me go and see if my hcard was deleted when switching themes
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jgmac1106__ interesting though to date only bridgy threads well with Twitter, SNAP does not
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sknebel is SNAP even supposed to support threads? would honestly kind of surprise me
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jgmac1106__ not sure, and I have free version. but I put the reply in the response propertied
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jgmac1106__ basically my workflow is if a twitter chat use Bridgy and if anything else use SNAP
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jgmac1106__ though I must say IndieWeb 2016>brid.gy> to Twitter looks and works better than Indepndent Publisher>brid.gy>Twitter
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jgmac1106__ yep switched back to 2016 indieweb and no more errant photo: https://twitter.com/jgmac1106/status/1016400218722656257
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@jgmac1106 Excited for this #NCTEchat but I think I will be away. Will have to check archives. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/4129-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1016400218722656257)
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[jgmac1106] ohh [chrisaldrich] giving a talk at the monthly Rhode Island WordPress meet up (in its 9th year) on IndieWeb. Good idea about doing reach out to WordCamps and Meetups
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dougbeal|imac What is p-name
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Loqi p-name is a microformats2 property class name that specifies a plain text name of an object, whether an h-card, h-event, h-entry, etc https://indieweb.org/p-name
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[Lovi] testing
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[Lovi] @jgmac1106, I got rid of the multiple posts, going to either do standalone peices or "Articles" for now. It seems that the implementation for "Collection" is out there, but I have alot of learning curve before I can implement what I see elsewhere is what I am assuming. I am quite interested in the page builder and displaying what they can do with IndieWeb. I will be studying the microformats when I can to learn from both ends, any help you
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[Lovi] very appreciated.
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[Lovi] (can give would be) was lost, but yeah, thanks for your interest!
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tantek welcome [Lovi] !
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GWG I had this idea about creating an archive view for photos that looked more like a gallery
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