#wordpress 2018-07-10

2018-07-10 UTC
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[jgmac1106] @gwg I tried to fool around with the archive view to recreate but above my skill level. @lovi the page builder I shared plays so well with archives and post kinda
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GWG [jgmac1106]: I just haven't fleshed out the idea.
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[jgmac1106] @lovi I also then set it by category so only articles display
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[jgmac1106] @gwg just utilize featured image. It's how WP users are trained. If you dress a featured image in their MF2 Sundays the user will do the rest.
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GWG [jgmac1106]: It was more trying to figure out how to do collections.
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[jgmac1106] Tags or categories
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GWG A collection would be an archive display of a tag, I suppose, but I hadn't figured out the juxtaposition of tag + kind
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[jgmac1106] Look at my homepage as it is set now. I have that by kind + category
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GWG I would want a pretty permalink
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GWG But imagine /tag/example/photo
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[jgmac1106] So do I but if you try some time you just might find you get what you need
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GWG [jgmac1106]: I think I could build that
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[jgmac1106] It is a page builder on top of your theme
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GWG I don't do pagebuilders.
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[jgmac1106] Just for the home page but was trying to think of a way for a visual splash page without mucking up IndieWeb
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[jgmac1106] Page builders only way for 100% width. Seems all IndieWeb themes around 900-1100px max. . I like to utilize all my white space to make nothing even a more valuable commodity
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[jgmac1106] Basically back to [miklb] idea of a PWA WordPress solution....which brings me back to if you want a PWA, then WTF you using WordPress for?
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[jgmac1106] Which brings me back to because that is where the users are. Which makes me ask and what do users want? The
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[miklb] I have thoughts about Gutenberg & mf2. I have 4 days planned at the beach in 2 weeks. I plan to fish in the mornings and code in the afternoons.
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[jgmac1106] Your plan is awful
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[jgmac1106] Fish around tide charts
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[miklb] my friend, I’m a FL native & have been beach fishing my entire 49 years on the planet.
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dougbeal|imac Has anyone submitted a post to indieweb.xyz from wordpress? I'm wondering if its the emoji.
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[jgmac1106] I have
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[jgmac1106] If you go there you will see jgmac1106blogroll fooled around with idea what if my blog roll worked liked old school social bookmarks
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dougbeal|imac Looks like an emoji problem
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[Lovi] this could be an ecumenical problem...
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[Lovi] Ok so, yes, lots of philosophy happening. What do we want, anyways? I really like this discussion about how to organize and permalink on this (guru meditation). On the wiki for colleciton it suggests that you don't add to one. Maybe sometimes for some collections, and you would announce an addition. For others, I think a simple way to display category + tag or something could work, and you could have a first page with description, then y
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[Lovi] like when you finish another art piece. Maybe we could rename one of those methods, or help people choose a process based on what they are trying to achieve. I have two temporary solutions now, but I will watch this topic.
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tantek__ WordPress folks, thoughts? https://ruk.ca/content/controlling-how-webmentions-are-rendered
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jgmac1106_ [lovi] if you look at [chrisaldrich]’s collection https://boffosocko.com/research/indieweb/ it is really just a page of links . Though it does have an hentry in the article class and people could subcribe to indieweb/feed so it is pretty neat
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Loqi IndieWeb Collection
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jgmac1106_ https://ruk.ca/content/controlling-how-webmentions-are-rendered#comment-24310 wonder what theme he went from and to
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jgmac1106_ On SemPress now
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jgmac1106_ [gwg] we need to document how we have to do photo post kind . Am I correct in sugegsting you upload to media library, grab the url, and put that in the response property box? adding the photo to the body or as a featured image doesn’t do anything correct?
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GWG Actually, the way I set it up, it tries to cover all three
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jgmac1106_ Can I get away with just doing a featured image and a url in response properties
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GWG Yes. I think I covered that case.
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GWG I have a note to add a direct link to the media library there. But haven't yet
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jgmac1106_ ….thinking I might be a few versions back on the theme
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jgmac1106_ this worked though featured image and the url in the response properties box
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jgmac1106_ http://jgregorymcverry.com/4154-2/
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Loqi How we do User Personas at the McVerry’s http://jgregorymcverry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/IMG_20180705_211347-1200x900.jpg
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jgmac1106_ I like the look of that so I don’t get the double photo of featured image and image
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GWG jgmac1106_: That's why the code tries to figure out which one you are using.
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jgmac1106_ okay I am only two commits behind not too bad
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jgmac1106_ working on this: http://jgregorymcverry.com/photos/ need to go and import a ton of photos from google photo
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GWG I'm still working on Micropub
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jgmac1106_ [gwg] does the simple location plugin add a location endpoint in my header?
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sknebel what woulda "location endpoint" be?
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GWG I echo sknebel's question
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GWG The plugin does have endpoints in the rest API, but only for use inside the admin
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GWG Why?
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GWG It doesn't have anything external.
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GWG jgmac1106, I am wondering what use case you are thinking of
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[jgmac1106] just fooling around is my onlye use case right now
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[jgmac1106] @gwg just got a warning when publishign from quill, it has a location option
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[stefp] The built-in endpoint of the IndieAuth plugin has stopped working here for some reason. I’ve had to install an older version and use indieauth.com again.
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aaronpk oh dear. what kind of "not working"?
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[stefp] If I try and login to Quill, for example, it finds the everything it needs but the Authorize button leads to a 403 Forbidden error.
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[stefp] on other services too
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[stefp] if I switch back to indieauth.com it works
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aaronpk is the 403 coming from wordpress or quill?
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jgmac1106_ I can do some but not all of quill, I can use note but not editor or bookmark
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aaronpk that sounds like a different problem
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[stefp] It’s a web server error. I’ve been in touch with my host and they haven’t made any changes.
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jgmac1106_ yeah it throws a 401 for me, help [stefp]
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aaronpk what's the URL you end up on when you see the 403 error?
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[stefp] It’s strange because it did work perfectly before.
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[stefp] https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-FBMS1SP27/screenshot_2018-07-10_15.35.26.png?pub_secret=48715476b9&name=Screenshot 2018-07-10 15.35.26.png
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aaronpk interesting, that's the second step of the plugin
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aaronpk [stefp]: do you have access to your server logs? There might be some information in the error_log file
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aaronpk huh, apparently this happens outside of the indieauth plugin as well http://danblee.com/wordpress-litespeed-403-forbidden-at-login-prompt/
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[stefp] I’ve had a look at the error log and there’s nothing related to this.
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aaronpk whoops i hit your login page too many times and got a captcha
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[stefp] Everything else is fine. It’s just this plugin that’s giving the error.
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aaronpk interesting... changing the client_id to not be a URL gets rid of the error
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aaronpk do you have any security plugins installed?
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[stefp] I have Sucuri Security installed.
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[stefp] I turned it off but it made no difference
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aaronpk hm k
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aaronpk i think we've reached the end of my wordpress knowledge. it sounds like something is interfering with the plugin, and i'm suspicious because if you change the client_id to just "quill" then it shows the login screen instead of the error. maybe GWG will have some more ideas.
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[stefp] Thanks. I’m happy to use the other method in the meantime.
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GWG I will have a look
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GWG jgmac1106, if you add location in Quill, it sends it in the Micropub request
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GWG Simple Location reads it to display a map
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GWG If you are getting a captcha, suggests a conflict as WordPress doesn't have built in captcha
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aaronpk i think the captcha was unrelated
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GWG It might be related if the plugin hooks into logins
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aaronpk i mean i dont think it was a plugin. it looked more like the cloudflare captcha
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GWG I Will troubleshoot
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GWG I am redoing some Indieauth code tonight for Micropub, may try to improve both
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[jgmac1106] @gwg [aaronpk] it worked fine, I just didn't have the plugin set up,
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[jgmac1106] hmmm tried to posse my first github issue reply and failed, will try again after conference
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