#wordpress 2018-08-07

2018-08-07 UTC
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[jgmac1106] [pfefferle] for real? I can just delete the Mastodon plugin?
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[matpacker] GWG: that's right, you're moving to Manila soon
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GWG Only for a month
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[xavierroy] [dshanske] welcome to Asia
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GWG I haven't left yet
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[xavierroy] [dshanske] 😀
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[Serena] I just noticed that when I send replies to other sites, my webmention doesn't show an avatar. My memory was that it did at one point.
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[Serena] I tried sending a webmention to myself and I find this:
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[Serena] Anyone know where I should look (which indieweb plugin) to fix this?
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[pfefferle] This might depend on your theme... If your theme does not markup the avatar correctly, the Webmention plugin can’t find it.
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[jgmac1106] [chrisaldrich] shows up as a blank facepike on my site I too am empty facepile on half of my webmentions to myself
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[jgmac1106] [pfefferle] found my Mastodon account it uses the WordPress username I can't change thus I would be BrokenArrow8@jgregorymcverry.com
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[jgmac1106] Wish you could change a WordPress user name...
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GWG You can. There's a plugin for that
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[pfefferle] [jgmac1106] it also supports other handles
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[pfefferle] Have to look at the code, tell you later...
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[jgmac1106] Wow thx... Granted its because at the time I liked how Phil Lesh and Friends covered the Grateful Dead covering Rod Stewart... But I might as well be HotStuffzzz69
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jgmac1106 How do I help this person? I find that RSS feeds from various indieweb sites often have entries for “notes” that have no title in the RSS, this seems to break the RSS reader. I am working on my personal rss feeds from WP but is there any documentation on how xml should render rss feeds for particular post types
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jgmac1106 “I find that RSS feeds from various indieweb sites often have entries for “notes” that have no title in the RSS, this seems to break the RSS reader.” was the question I got
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jgmac1106 !tell [chrisaldrich] my blog and syndication feeds display set to ten most recent each and summary…how you have 500+ entries for me is beyond me
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jgmac1106 who is vishae?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/User:Www.serenawho.com
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jgmac1106 !tell vishae Independent Publisher needs a community stewart, there are a number of issues, missing hcards, incorrect markup in different post types, happy to help work on the fixes…seems to be a popular, but broken choice
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jeremycherfas jgmac1106 Are you talking about the WP.com version of Independent Publisher or the .org version? Because I have no major issues with the .org version.
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jgmac1106 @jermycherfas, they are, small issues, and you probably handcoded a bunch of stuff
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jgmac1106 the u-photo from the hcard leaks into every post
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jgmac1106 the header image, which is your gravatr image, should really be a native h-card
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jeremycherfas Not things I recall having to do, but that's OK
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jgmac1106 [sknebel] when through the markup of a bunch of post using the postkind plug in and they need a few minor tweaks here and there
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GWG I fixed it in a PR a while ago
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jgmac1106 the other issue folks run into [jeremycherfas] is the gravatr image in the hcard widget is the same as header img and they end up with the same image twice if they don’t manually roll an h-card….though the recent changes [gwg] launched in the widget may address this problem
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GWG I just added uid
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jgmac1106 [gwg] your PR was filed 10 months ago, we need a community steward to take over a fork
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jgmac1106 I am happy to help so I up my theme editing skills
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GWG I suppose that I could redo my PR
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jgmac1106 [gwg] we need a fork mantained by somebody else
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jeremycherfas jgmac1106 Just to be certain, you are talking about the .org version? That's what I really need to know.
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jgmac1106 yes 100%
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sknebel jgmac1106: you're syndicating github posts to !tell's now? 😂
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jgmac1106 you may not syndicate as much to Twitter with Bridgy…that is where a lot of the bad mf2 markup exposes itself
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jgmac1106 [sknebel] not on purpose…never got GitHub syndication working well
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sknebel no, in the sense that you replied on github about independent publisher and then left a tell here for the same person
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sknebel not automated ;)
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jgmac1106 …well I checked if [vishae] had a chat-name first…then through out the !tell
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jgmac1106 we need an optional !tell notifiication that would send an email if they list one
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jgmac1106 but [gwg] if and when I get the time to work on rss we shoudl make a wiki page or add to /rss explaining best practice for the xml of a post with no title
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bradenslen morning
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Loqi rise and shine!
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bradenslen I seem to have a minor problem: my icons have disappeared from my rel=me widget
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bradenslen I'm not sure when they went missing.
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bradenslen 2 things I did recently: updated to indieweb 3.3.10 plugin and ...
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bradenslen tried Ostatus plugin plus it's sub-plugins...
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bradenslen I have since deactivated Ostatus and the new sub dependant plugins
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bradenslen icons still gone.
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petermolnar bradenslen: 404 or they are missing from the page source itself?
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bradenslen Is there a known issue on this? The links are still there just no icons or text. I have invisible links.
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bradenslen Is there a known issue on this? The links are still there just no icons or text. I have invisible links.
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bradenslen Clarify: the links are only detectable on mouseover. They work, just no icons or text.
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[Serena] [pfefferle] I’m using Independent Publisher, though I tried SemPress to see if the issue was theme related, and SemPress had the same issue too, so I thought it was a plug-in issue.
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[Serena] [jgmac1106] re. H-card u-photo leaking everywhere, I know next to nothing about php, but I found and commented out the independent_publisher_mf2_get_avatar_data function in inc/mf2.php, and it seems to work fine now. Though I agree, some work needs to go into this theme.
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bradenslen got to go
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[jgmac1106] [Serena] I am trying to get there in terms of php and WordPress the functions...seem logical. Happy to help steward a fork with others who know nothing and try to figure out together
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[jgmac1106] Really open rel=alternate though leads to more indieweb use and that bleeds over to more interest in themes with proper mf2 so we can keep properties in HTML
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[jgmac1106] ! Tell bradenslen 3.1.3 added toggle options in hcard widget. This may be messing with rel=me
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[jgmac1106] Or just need to move some toggles. I haven't had chance to test or update documentation
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[chrisaldrich] [Serena] [jgmac1106] I've seen the missing avatar thing for a while too. Reported here: https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/issues/178#issuecomment-407884642 is it what you're seeing?
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Loqi [chrisaldrich]: gRegorLove left you a message 2 days, 8 hours ago: I just replied to your issue post. webmention was successful and comment header says "one response..." but doesn't show the comment.
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Loqi [chrisaldrich] In version 3.8.1 it currently appears that comments from WordPress and Micro.blog (both of which have Gravatar as a commonality) appear to be automatically using the default mystery person avatar even though there is a separate avatar defined within ...
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[chrisaldrich] gRegorLove thanks for the heads up. I saw it myself and am unsure of the cause. It's all fine on the back end but just not displaying for some reason. I'll try to get to it shortly.
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[Serena] I'm not sure that it's the same issue, since my Avatar field for Semantic Linkbacks Data is empty. (ref. screenshot: https://indiewebcamp.slack.com/archives/C08S4KMJN/p1533625580000245)
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aaronpk regarding the authorization header thing
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aaronpk I was happy to discover that there's a hook that runs when a plugin is activated
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aaronpk which means it should be pretty easy for the plugin to make a test post request to itself to check if the http authorization header gets through
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aaronpk then can warn the user with an admin notice
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gRegorLove Thanks to Zegnat we have the code. "just" need to WordPress-ify it https://gist.github.com/Zegnat/f4192c3cce05d847af3547eea80e383c
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aaronpk That's a little more than we need even
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Zegnat Yeah, that one is full diagnostics checking all places the header might be available at.
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GWG The icons were refreshed, it is possible that they have to do a shift refresh. But will check tonight if I can reproduce as mine is still working
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GWG Happy to try more tests
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[jgmac1106] [chrisaldrich] is missing prof
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bradenslen back
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bradenslen !Tell jgmac1106 Thanks I tried tapping around those widgets and the places they draw info from: resaving etc. No good.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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sknebel bradenslen: are you talking about those not-visible buttons at the bottom of your homepage?
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bradenslen The buttons are in a rel=me widget. Sidebar on desktop right above pumpkinhead image
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bradenslen they are invisible
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sknebel they are loaded from a different domain inside an <svg>, at least chrome doesn't allow that for security reasons
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sknebel (screams loudly about that in the dev-tools console too)
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bradenslen hrmm, they used to be there. will check
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bradenslen I just checked Privacy Badger ext. But it is not blocking anything from twitter or micro.blog
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sknebel not an extension, that's browser policy for chrome
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bradenslen i just double checked in Safari. Still nothing.
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sknebel safari might do the same
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sknebel yeah, they block that too
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sknebel given the url it could be that your hoster is rewriting those urls trying to "make it faster"
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sknebel since the plugin afaik is loading them locally
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sknebel do you have any pagespeed etc plugins loaded?
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bradenslen No pagespeed or anything. Host is Pressable from Automatic.
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sknebel maybe they do that automatically then
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bradenslen if so, they must have just changed something
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bradenslen to me it's not a big deal, except hidden links are frowned upon in general
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bradenslen sknebel thanks for try to diagnose.
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bradenslen try = trying
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sknebel another entry for "how can hosting companies make indieweb difficult"...
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bradenslen i'm not convinced that is the problem but it might be.
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sknebel the browser is telling you this is preventing the icons from loading (despite there being an svg file at that url), the url clearly has been rewritten (like most resource urls on your site) to point to a CDN
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bradenslen I barely understand that. :-) It would be great if the stock icons were supplied with the plugins
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sknebel they are
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sknebel the plugin ships with the icons
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sknebel when it wants to display it, it asks wordpress "hey, I have a file inside me at static/img/simple-icons.svg, please make me a full url to that"
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sknebel and either something has hooked in there, or is doing it later, so that instead of at ramblinggit.com/wp-content/plugins/indieweb/static/img/simple-icons.svg the url points to https://wvw0glu2z4v4pz4d-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/plugins/indieweb/static/img/simple-icons.svg
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sknebel which in the background probably fetches the file from ramblinggit, but caches it
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sknebel which happens to all the css etc on your page too, the problem is that the images used in the svg are not allowed to come from a different domain than your page
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[jgmac1106] @bradenslen check the icon settings in post kinds.... They shouldn't impact just throwing spaghetti at wall
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Loqi [jgmac1106]: bradenslen left you a message 42 minutes ago: Thanks I tried tapping around those widgets and the places they draw info from: resaving etc. No good.
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bradenslen Ah! zippykid! Zippykid is caught up in PrivacyBadger!
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[jgmac1106] Ohh wow what @sknebel said
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bradenslen No. Privacy Badger shows zippykid to be green for okay. False Aha.
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sknebel again, the browser blocks that by itself, not a plugin
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bradenslen I'll look with Firefox later when I swap out to the Linux laptop.
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bradenslen got to leave for awhile. Thanks to both of you.
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[jgmac1106] [pfefferle] FYI I am getting six email notifications per salmon I receive
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sknebel I guess the indieweb plugin could allow to specify a self-choosen icon url, that's then directly added instead of going through WP logic. if they hooked into that, that would allow to circumvent it
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[pfefferle] Yes, there is already an open bug... I thought better 6 than none 😉
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sknebel you'd want to know when you receive salmon, it's best when it's fresh
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[jgmac1106] In terms of my inbox... None is always best. Funny thing they get scooped up in my bridgy filter so I don't see them
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GWG I missed Microsub talk again
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aaronpk you can never really miss conversations on IRC, they are always ongoing
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GWG Yes, but I have been watching the WordPress Microsub progress
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aaronpk oh yeah i need to launch my aperture plugin now that i have that slug
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GWG I am waiting for native support
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aaronpk that would be amazing
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[matpacker] Question, I'm looking at using Drafts.app for posting to my WP blog, and I'm looking to tweak the code here - http://actions.getdrafts.com/a/1BS and it uses "postFormat". Can I simply change that to "postKind" and add a pick list of the kinds I use?
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[matpacker] Follow up question, is there a way of adding the Response Properties to the script so that they are added?
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GWG aaronpk, someone is working on it
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GWG I am reading
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GWG It could be, but it doesn't now
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