#wordpress 2018-08-06

2018-08-06 UTC
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aaronpk Wordpress is telling me I can’t name my plugin Aperture because it’s a trademark
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GWG Isn't it several trademarks?
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aaronpk Yes, which is why that policy makes no sense
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aaronpk trademarks don’t work that way
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aaronpk they seem to think that a word is trademarked and then owned by that company in every context
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aaronpk I’m going to argue it with them
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aaronpk I sent back the naive response first
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aaronpk i will put on my lawyer hat for the next reply if they don’t approve it
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GWG Would they feel better if you clarified in the title?
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aaronpk They said the slug and title can’t start with Aperture
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aaronpk this policy makes sense for terms that exist in the same trademark realm
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aaronpk like you can’t make a plugin called Woocommerce Notifications because that makes it look official
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GWG Keep me posted.
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[eddie] aaronpk: is your Aperture plug-in the actual server? Or is that just a way for Wordpress people to easily use an external Aperture Server?
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GWG [eddie]: I believe the latter
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aaronpk It just makes an account on my server
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aaronpk I believe it says that in the description :-)
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[eddie] I didn’t see any links to it, just the convo here 🙂 probably missed something along the way.
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[eddie] That’s clever, though!
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aaronpk Ahh
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aaronpk https://github.com/aaronpk/aperture-wordpress
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Loqi [aaronpk] aperture-wordpress: A WordPress plugin to use Aperture as your Microsub endpoint
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[pfefferle] [aaronpk] as far as I know, they simply check if there is a user with the same name, if so, they disallow plugins with the name, or with the name in that... https://profiles.wordpress.org/aperture
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[pfefferle] [aaronpk] had the same issue with the indieweb plugins... tried to add them as „Pfefferle“ instead of as the indieweb user and they rejected...
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Lildirt Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake
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DarthGandalf2 Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
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Loqi DarthGandalf2 said: Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
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[jgmac1106] Gwg++
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[jgmac1106] Pefefferle++
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[jgmac1106] Snarfed++
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[jgmac1106] What ever you folks did with Micropub I woke up to a feed in my MicroSub reader
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GWG Oh?
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[pfefferle] [jgmac1106] my name is Pfefferle ;)
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GWG Have I been pronouncing it correctly?
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[pfefferle] In the podcast?
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GWG pfefferle, yes
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[pfefferle] Nearly perfect ☺
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GWG Or on the IWC streams
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GWG pfefferle, you'll have to do a pronunciation recording
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GWG pfefferle, also sent a PR. Found an icon issue in Indieweb that changed without me noticing
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[pfefferle] Google translate makes a good job
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[pfefferle] Use German, type in pfefferle and press the voice button
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[jgmac1106] Pfefferle++
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[pfefferle] Thanks :)
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[jgmac1106] that makes your Karma look much better for YTD, my apologies
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[pfefferle] No problem
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[jgmac1106] Need to go see how much else got fixed with the plugin updates, I will also re-record videos and work on WP page
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[jgmac1106] I want to stop working on a draft of the getting started page from my website and move it to the main getting started page...Is everyone okay with losing the whole IndieMark thing or pushing it way down on the page
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GWG jgmac1106, you aren't on the GitHub version of Micropub, are you?
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[jgmac1106] it does nothing to help get me started.....no I am not....but something pushed last night and I have a feed now
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GWG pfefferle, thinking about rel-alternate as well
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[pfefferle] Sure, I am optimizing my as2/as1 plugin atm. And then I start with mf2/jf2
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GWG I am thinking about the Semantic Linkbacks side
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GWG The consuming
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[pfefferle] Ok, but I though it is easier if we have a reference plugin to test with
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GWG pfefferle, I figured you were working on that.
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[pfefferle] I would love to focus on rel-alternate of mf2 because this will be the easiest
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GWG Consuming should be a matter of finding the link and loading it instead of parsing
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[jgmac1106] makes a lot of sense....except the entire point of mf2 is being readable in HTML but that will juts be impossible with WordPress
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[pfefferle] Should we always use the alternate if available?
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GWG [pfefferle]: My suggestion is yes.
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[jgmac1106] it makes perfect sense, we can point to a sheet driven by a plugin...my vote is connected to postkinds....that will have the correct mf2 regardless of theme
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[jgmac1106] I will leave it up to two to handle what this means for webmention plugin and how comments display in a theme....still it seems like a reasonable solution in scope that maximizes impact
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[jgmac1106] If each So what I am asking [pfefferle] could we use a plugin that adds a rel+alternate link and points to the same page based on post kind with the correct properties
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[pfefferle] [jgmac1106] does Postkinds produce a mf2 json file?
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[pfefferle] I do not use post-kinds so please help me before I might miss something
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GWG pfefferle, it can, I mentioned
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GWG But the class I use isn't depeden on it so could be used elsewhere
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GWG So l could implement rel alternate inside Post Kinds quickly
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[pfefferle] But then it is limited to post kinds
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[pfefferle] let me know if you do so, then I will check if post kinds is installed, to disable the standalone plugin...
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[jgmac1106] yeah [pfefferle] I was just thinking what could make the most themes as compliant as possible, if the mf2 plugin was deprecated and another mf2 plugin based on rel+alternate" for article, status, quote...the default WP post types we could get ton of these compliant ASAP
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aaronpk Aperture update: wordpress mentioned the "Aperture Foundation" as well as Apple's application
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aaronpk so i'm pushing back that there is no conflict because neither of those are anywhere remotely in the same category, plus apple discontinued that app in 2015
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tantek__ what is a WordPress Theme
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Loqi WordPress Themes are a simple way to quickly change the look and feel of a WordPress website primarily by use of CSS https://indieweb.org/WordPress_theme
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aaronpk Update: I talked them into letting me have the slug and name! They made it clear they will take it down the second they get a C&D from Apple. Tho I really doubt that will happen because it's not similar to Apple's product plus Apple discontinued it in 2015
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tantek__ aaronpk: or other uses? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture_(disambiguation)
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tantek__ but yeah, discontinued for 3+ years! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture_(software)
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[pfefferle] [jgmac1106] with the latest changes of the indieweb plugin, the OStatus stuff is working for your site… search for “@{username}@jgregorymcverry.com” in mastodon…
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[jgmac1106] Yeah everything falling into place awesome job everyone
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[jgmac1106] And I figured out my bug with the Mastodon syndication... It only works in rich editor
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[pfefferle] With ostatus you do not have to syndicate... the plugin shares everything you post
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[pfefferle] And collects the responses to your posts
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GWG Evening
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[matpacker] Evening GWG, or morning here.
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GWG I am coming to your timezone soon enough
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