#wordpress 2018-08-13

2018-08-13 UTC
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GWG
[chrisaldrich]: I did the first PR you might see
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GWG
Hi, snarfed
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[chrisaldrich]
GWG though i will admit it's tough to distinguish which one you mean when you've done 8 PRs in 4 different repositories recently!!
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[chrisaldrich]
GWG++ for being GWG!
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Loqi
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Loqi
[snarfed] i noticed this recently too. >1k requests in <45s, >25qps. not a disaster, my site handled it fine, but still, noticeable. small thread on it here: https://mastodon.technology/@snarfed/100119606571241751 , cc @ashfurrow @neekz0r. <img width="530" ...
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[jgmac1106]
[pfefferle] weirdest thing...all of my toots from [jgmac1106]@jgregorymcverry.com were deleted. I was @brokenarrow8@jgregogymcverry.com and switched my user name....was working jgmac1106 was sending toots and they all got deleted
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petermolnar
[jgmac1106]: given it's WP, I'll bring it over here
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petermolnar
I haven't touch this plugin in years: https://github.com/petermolnar/wp-webmention-again - it followed a completely different idea of dealing with webmentions compared to the official-ish webmention plugin
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[jgmac1106]
yeah, I didn't even want to talk WP, just that I respect the openness of micro.blog
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GWG
I remember webmention again
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GWG
You are still having webmention problems jgmac1106?
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GWG
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[pfefferle]
[jgmac1106] which one was deleted? The ones you posted with the old username?
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GWG
[chrisaldrich]: I was referring to the new IndieAuth PR I'm waiting for review on. UI improvements
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GWG
Vouch also has some minor UI improvements though
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[jgmac1106]
no my newer one jgmac1106@jgregorymcverry.com strange as it showed data yesterday
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GWG
All the Micropub stuff is behind the scenes
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GWG
[pfefferle] Did you see that PR by the way, curious if it looks visually better
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[chrisaldrich]
[jgmac1106] I can follow [jgmac1106]@jgregorymcverry.com on mastodon and it looks like you've got content there going back several days at least
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[chrisaldrich]
which plugin set were you using to effectuate your "instance"?
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[pfefferle]
[jgmac1106] I can confirm it… I see posts back to 5 days old
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[pfefferle]
GWG have seen it, but haven’t had the time to test it
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[pfefferle]
will do it later today
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GWG
pfefferle, no rush, just curious. First time I used WP_List_Table
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GWG
I didn't add bulk token revocation
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GWG
Wait...idea
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[chrisaldrich]
[jgmac1106] Maybe it took some time for your admin name change to propogate through their system? Might be worth noting somewhere if others attempt the same thing in the future.
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GWG
Add a last used property to tokens so old ones can be manually revoked
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[chrisaldrich]
[jgmac1106] We should figure out why there's an errant "Also on" at the bottom of all of your posts. If I recall correctly GWG removed that part with a filter in his 2016 IW fork, so I'm not sure why it's showing up on your version of the theme (and therefore also syndicating everywhere else too).
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GWG
I tried to
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GWG
Ask snarfed for rel alternate?
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aaronpk
[pfefferle]: is your ostatus plugin set working well with mastodon now?
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[jgmac1106]
[pfefferle] must just be a mastodon issue as it tries to catch up with my account change:
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[jgmac1106]
[aaronpk] oStatus work really well,
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[chrisaldrich]
GWG did you push the refback to the WP repository the other day? I could have sworn you mentioned it, but I'm not seeing it yet.
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[pfefferle]
[aaronpk] it supports following and the replies on mastodon, will be sent back to the blog
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GWG
chrisaldrich, I got approval, I will upload it tonight
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GWG
Also, in dev Semantic Linkbacks now enhances refbacks
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[pfefferle]
perhaps a caching issue
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[pfefferle]
[aaronpk] next step would be, to also sent reactions from WordPress to mastodon
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aaronpk
this doens't provide any way of following people on mastodon right?
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[chrisaldrich]
GWG++ for refbacks!
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Loqi
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[pfefferle]
[aaronpk] right
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[pfefferle]
[aaronpk] but mainly, because I have no idea how to handle this
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[chrisaldrich]
Does OStatus do backfeed of replies from Mastodon, etc.?
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[pfefferle]
[aaronpk] means, where to show the timeline
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aaronpk
i'm wondering if there is some way to tie in aperture/microsub into this
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[pfefferle]
[chrisaldrich] yes
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[chrisaldrich]
Wow! that's awesome!
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[chrisaldrich]
[pfefferle]++ for the round trip with OStatus
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Loqi
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[pfefferle]
[aaronpk] would be awesome, to have some kind of following, reply, … backend
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aaronpk
[pfefferle]: i'm thinking something like, you set up a microsub server (either externally like aperture, or if someone builds one as a plugin)
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aaronpk
then you use all the regular microsub apps, which post back to your website via micropub
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aaronpk
then the ostatus plugin can take over sending those replies back to the mastodon post
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[pfefferle]
[aaronpk] would be a nice way to not store all the social stuff in wordpress, but to build a simple view, that enables reactions or reposts or citations…
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[pfefferle]
[aaronpk]++
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Loqi
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[jgmac1106]
it works so well...I do need to figure out between the indieauth update, autotoot with mastodon, and oStatus something slowed down my publishing...my suspect is autotoot with mastodon
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aaronpk
do you have any of the activitypub stuff hooked up in this plugin yet?
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[jgmac1106]
Be amazing Mathais
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[pfefferle]
but I am working on it
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aaronpk
sending a "like" via activtiypub is ephemeral, doesn't require putting it at a URL, so that could work to avoid not storing some stuff in wordpress
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[pfefferle]
brb have to eat something
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GWG
I like to store all the things in WordPress
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GWG
But that's me
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[chrisaldrich]
Store all the things!
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GWG
chrisaldrich, I talked Jackjamieson into it for Microsub
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[chrisaldrich]
[jgmac1106] The portion of IndieWeb 2016 theme that removes the extra "Also on" portion you're seeing is here: https://github.com/dshanske/twentysixteen-indieweb/commit/56a2990776217f238146e8934096d64726e22c40 Did you make changes to it somehow?
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[chrisaldrich]
GWG, I think I recall that convo in chat a few weeks ago. Was he putting it into posts or creating a new type for it? I don't recall...
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jackjamieson
[chrisaldrich] just tuning back in after being offline and somewhat out of the loop today. Do you mean where I'm storing content from feeds?
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[chrisaldrich]
[jackjamieson] yes. Just curious. Though I should be watching your repo more closely now too...
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jackjamieson
Happy to talk about it :) Posts from feeds are stored in a custom post type
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montag45117
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jackjamieson
Content for each post is stored as a jf2 array, which is saved into a custom-meta field. So the feed content is only visible through a microsub client
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[chrisaldrich]
Are you architecting so that someone could build the microsub client directly into one's own WP install?
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[chrisaldrich]
I had a conversation with Jan Cavan Boulas, the designer who made WordPress.com's feed reader interface, about microsub. I'm hoping that as you get further along we can get her and some others on the Autommatic side to create a WP specific microsub client.
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jackjamieson
Hmm, right now it's only accessible through a REST API endpoint. If an integrated reader would require difference access, it should be relatively straightforward to add
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[miklb]
has anyone solved how to whitelist replies that come in via bridgy?
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jackjamieson
[chrisaldrich], If nothing else, I could create a class that mimics the endpoint, so it could be called from other plugins. Otherwise the plugin is actually pretty simple. The overall structure takes cues from the post-kinds plugin. Hadn't really thought about that much at this stage but it's a good idea and I think it should be possible without ay major changes
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jackjamieson
I'm hoping to have the remainder of the actions implemented and some improvements to parsing within a few weeks. It's actually pretty functional right now (I'm currently using it as my feed reader)
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[chrisaldrich]
jackjamieson++
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Loqi
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[chrisaldrich]
Now I'm going to have to find some time to carve out in an already overbooked schedule to try to set up the WP microsub server... #itches...
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[philbowell]
Hi all, I’m continuing my exploration of Indieweb using WordPress. On Indiewebify.me my h-card is not representative and is asking for a `u-url` property. How do I go about fixing this if I’m using the h-card widget?
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[jgmac1106]
[philbowell] welcome, do you have a link to you website?
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GWG
Taking another break. Tonight I will be trying to put Micropub to bed for a bit
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GWG
I need beta testers for the current master branch
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[philbowell]
[jgmac1106] yes, sorry. https://philbowell.blog
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GWG
Anyone up for it?
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dougbeal
GWG: more changes since the media endpoint?
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[chrisaldrich]
[philbowell] I'd guess it's looking for a URL to be put in the `Website` field on your site at `yoursite.com/wp-admin/profile.php#url`
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[chrisaldrich]
GWG: I'm game and should have some time. Let me know when it's ready for download/testing.
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GWG
chrisaldrich, now
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GWG
Anything else is a new feature
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[philbowell]
[chrisaldrich] that worked, thanks! Hadn’t realised that was what `PGP Key (URL)` was for
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GWG
PGP key is for something else. This is website url
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GWG
chrisaldrich, it is fully functional
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[pfefferle]
[aaronpk] can you submit the mf2-feed plugin to packagist.org and add me as contributor?
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aaronpk
did you just add the github hook?
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[pfefferle]
it was my namespace before
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aaronpk
does that plugin also advertise the rel=alternate link?
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[pfefferle]
still some things to do, but it should work for now
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[pfefferle]
I am now working on the webmention support
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Loqi
[pfefferle] #204 WIP: rel-alternate
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[pfefferle]
just submitted the plugin to the wordpress.org repo
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[pfefferle]
if it was added, we can add it to the indieweb plugin, instead of the uf2 thingy
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jackjamieson
GWG, I've got a bit of time to test Micropub tomorrow, I'll let you know how it goes
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aaronpk
great! got any wordpress sites running that right now that i can test with?
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[pfefferle]
let me know if you find some glitches…
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[jgmac1106]
I have a suite of WordPress sites if folks want to test [aaronpk].. Each of the IndieWeb themes and three most popular themes
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[jgmac1106]
Happy to create admin accounts on them for anyone
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[philbowell]
GWG: When I put my site url in that field in my profile it became a representative h-card according to indiewebify.me. Should it not be in there? The website field was already populated with my blog address.
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aaronpk
ah shoot [pfefferle], i forgot to mention that I had to look for explicitly application/mf2+json because too many things claim to be just "application/json"
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aaronpk
can you change that in the plugin?
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[pfefferle]
whoops… thought I already changed that
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GWG
Refback is online:
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Loqi
[David Shanske] Description Refback is a linkback method that works using the standard HTTP Referer header. Like pingbacks, trackbacks, and webmentions, it attempts to present links of other sites that have linked to you. Unlike other methods, the other site requi...
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GWG
Glad you are pleased
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aaronpk
hahahaha crap
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Loqi
hehe
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aaronpk
that tripped Loqi's "all caps" filter
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jgmac1106
@gwg and @chrisaldrich will have to explain to me what that means and do I need to install it, does it replace anything else?
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jgmac1106
With @gwg and @pfefferle on such dev streaks….keeping up with documentation gonna get tough…just when I thought I had getting started with WordPress for beginners page done
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jgmac1106
@chrisaldrich I wonder why you are still a blank profile on my site: http://jgregorymcverry.com/5708-2/ and why the mention doesn’t link back to the post with the mention
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Loqi
[Greg McVerry] This is a good reference to early open pedagogy
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jgmac1106
thats it no more Slack and IRC open at the same time…I always mess up mentions