#wordpress 2018-08-16

2018-08-16 UTC
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aaronparecki.com edited /WordPress (+191) "/* Criticism */" (view diff)
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jackjamieson GWG, I forgot how extreme the time difference is!
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jackjamieson Why don't I just send some notes about the parser on Github or something, and we can chat asynchronously or a bit later. I don't want to ask you to complicate your schedule and I can probably be clearer in a longer message anyway
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GWG Okay. I want to do some work on it. But I may do that
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tantek__ just saw this via fraying on the xoxo mastodon, heads-up of a sort for our Wordpress related work https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/13/business/media/sandy-hook-conspiracies-leonard-pozner.html search for "Automattic"
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[metbril] !tell @GWG If I don't forget I will submit an issue in the appropriate repo re. exposing the install dir in the endpoint.
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metbril_ GWG: are you online?
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metbril_ !tell GWG The admin panel no longer shows a link to edit the kinds taxonomy (like https://mydomain.com/wp-admin/edit-tags.php?taxonomy=kind
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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metbril_ !tell GWG Has this changed since the last plugin update?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG !tell metbril The IndieAuth PR has already been approved and I am just about to merge it. Re Post Kinds, it was only visible if you had DEBUG on. It wasn't meant to be edited using the UI.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi GWG: metbril_ left you a message 2 hours, 33 minutes ago: The admin panel no longer shows a link to edit the kinds taxonomy (like https://mydomain.com/wp-admin/edit-tags.php?taxonomy=kind
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Loqi GWG: metbril_ left you a message 2 hours, 33 minutes ago: Has this changed since the last plugin update?
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MetBril GWG: I liked being able to edit taxonomy labels for localized use in Archives. The page headers are currently hardcoded and should follow the (editable) descriptions.
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Loqi MetBril: GWG left you a message 2 hours, 52 minutes ago: The IndieAuth PR has already been approved and I am just about to merge it. Re Post Kinds, it was only visible if you had DEBUG on. It wasn't meant to be edited using the UI.
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jgmac1106 who is metbril?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/User:Robertvanbregt.nl
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jgmac1106 Robert thanks for all your help with testing, needed some more expertise to join the brain trust
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MetBril what is brain trust?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "brain trust" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "brain trust is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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MetBril jgmac1106: my native language isn't English, so I don't quite understand 'brain trust'. please explain
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jgmac1106 a group of thinkers working on a common problem
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jeremycherfas A brains trust used to be thought of as a panel of wise people who could be called on to offer opinions on almost anything.
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jgmac1106 sorry for the slang, I try to avoid it in multilingual settings
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jeremycherfas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brains_Trust
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MetBril +1
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jgmac1106 metbril++
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Loqi metbril has 1 karma over the last year
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jgmac1106 for additional testing and supporting IndieWeb WordPress
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MetBril iiuc you are asking me to help you testing?
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MetBril who is jgmac1106
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MetBril who is jgmac1106?
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Loqi J. Gregory McVerry (Greg) is an educator trying to use the web to help engineer better teachers https://indieweb.org/User:Jgregorymcverry.com
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Loqi J. Gregory McVerry (Greg) is an educator trying to use the web to help engineer better teachers https://indieweb.org/User:Jgregorymcverry.com
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jgmac1106 [metbril] I am giving thanks for the work you did already with [gwg] finding bugs and improvements in the micropub plugin
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jgmac1106 You are happy to choose your own projects and goals, but the IndieWeb WordPress community needs people like you so thank you for the help
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GWG I am planning to add a second UI to customize the descriptions
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GWG The reason I don't want people having the normal interface is to create kinds without the extra display data, so I need to customize to make certain fields mandatory.
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MetBril who is metbril
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Loqi Robert van Bregt is an experienced IT Project Manager, anything tech aficionado and world improver https://indieweb.org/User:Robertvanbregt.nl
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MetBril I just love Loqi
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metbril_ Who is metbril?
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Loqi Robert van Bregt is an experienced IT Project Manager, anything tech aficionado and world improver https://indieweb.org/User:Robertvanbregt.nl
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metbril_ Sorry. Just testing Mutter on the iPad instead of webchat
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GWG I am still hoping to get the Micropub plugin out the door and dive back into Post Kinds
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[chrisaldrich] [miklb] Is there something I'm missing as I read this? https://twitter.com/miklb/status/1030066692989308928 I'm curious what you think is unstable?
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@miklb @shep I would wait a few weeks on the WP stuff. The state of the WP #indieweb plugins isn’t stable IMO (twitter.com/_/status/1030066692989308928)
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[metbril] Has there been a discussion about using hardcoded 'post kinds' for the plugin? Tag and category slugs can be modified by the user (in my case: translated into Dutch) so that my permalinks don't need to contain English phrases.
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[metbril] I haven't tried yet, but if I change a slug of `quote` to `citaat` things will break.
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[metbril] And like changing the slug for `categories` to `onderwerpen` and `tags` to `labels` I would also like to be able to change to slug for the `kind` taxonomy to something like `soort`.
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[jgmac1106] [metbril] the post kinds use taxonomies and archive views
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MetBril jgmac1106: I know. But the archive page title uses the coded titles and not those from the taxonomy editor
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MetBril And I use the taxonomy definitions to build a site menu
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MetBril Which requires translation, too.
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[jgmac1106] I would leave @gwg an issue on GitHub, he likes tracking them there, localisation important
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MetBril https://github.com/dshanske/indieweb-post-kinds/issues/206
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Loqi [metbril] #206 Archive page titles
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MetBril And I will create another for localization of the taxonomy slug
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jgmac1106 metbril++
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Loqi metbril has 2 karma over the last year
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MetBril Customize taxonomy slug: https://github.com/dshanske/indieweb-post-kinds/issues/207
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Loqi [metbril] #207 Customizing kind taxonomy slug
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GWG The slug may be problematic
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MetBril I thought so, but still wanted to mention it anyway
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GWG Only because we need a canonical name, but description yes
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GWG I consider i18n important, even if I stumble on it as my language skills are lacking
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GWG I am trying to finish up the Micropub plugin updates so I can return to Post Kinds
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MetBril I'm happy to help you thinking it over, but from what I've seen this would probably mean a redesign of the plugin?
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MetBril what is karma?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "karma" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "karma is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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GWG I am working on redesigning the registration system for post kinds to render the admin elements based on the parameters.
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GWG So it will look sort of like register_post_type or such
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MetBril That looks like a lot of work, since you're more or less re-building the taxonomy functionality?
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GWG metbril, look at how many lines I have in the taxonomy section to classify kinds now. It will work better with a function.
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GWG I want to start saying what properties each kind supports so it can be rendered
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MetBril I like the templating system for taxonomies: https://developer.wordpress.org/themes/template-files-section/taxonomy-templates/
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MetBril Will that continue to work?
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MetBril Or should I say ' continue working'?
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MetBril I not a native speaker. ;-)
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MetBril is leaving. It's kind of late in my TZ
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GWG It is 5am here
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GWG Nothing will change on that end
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GWG !tell miklb I feel like I am adding to your frustration
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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