#wordpress 2018-09-04

2018-09-04 UTC
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miklb__ getting weird behavior uploading pics from Quill on my phone. one didn't attach, one attached and uploaded twice. this is with the latest fix for attachments in master
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miklb__ wonder if it's size plus the image-optim/aws workflow causing some timeout issues or something
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GWG That I am not sure of
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miklb__ I'll keep an eye on it
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[Serena] Ok, so the whole indieweb has, for me, been pretty much a black box. I joined micro.blog in April and that was around the same time I discovered the indieweb.
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[Serena] I read some of the indieweb.org articles (most of which goes over my head), installed all the WP plugin, and everything works.
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[Serena] However, I don’t actually know how anything actually *works*, and I’m wondering if anyone is willing (and have the time) to let me badger them (over the period of a few days) with questions (perhaps via PM).
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[Serena] Specifically I’d want to know how selecting a post kind using the WP plugin is different from writing your own h-card stuff (I also don’t know the right terminology), and how that is different from using something like indiebookclub/ownyourswarm to post (E.g. indiebookclub posts have an additional read status that post kinds plugin does not have. And like, my OwnYourSwarm post now includes images from my original Swarm post, but I don
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[Serena] coming from or how to delete it - not that I want to, but I don’t know where the HTML is written on my posts).
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[Serena] I’d like to learn more about this, it’s just that most of the documentation I’ve read assumes a level of technical know-how that I don’t have.
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[Serena] I’m not a programmer of any kind, I just fiddle with this sort of thing. The most complicated kind of stuff I’ve done so far on my blog is create my own functions.php, but all the code in there are taken from other people.
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aaronpk welcome [Serena]!
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aaronpk that sounds like an excellent series of questions that can be used to improve all the wordpress pages! we would all definitely benefit from this discussion happening in the channel here!
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aaronpk I don't have those answers myself, since I'm not super familiar with the wordpress specifics, but chrisaldrich and GWG can probably help shed some light on things!
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jeremycherfas [jgmac1106] may also be able to help and miklb__
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[tantek] Welcome [Serena] and yes, all questions welcome, especially the kinds you mention. Feel free to start any time one at a time and someone is likely to help!
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snarfed fyi all, i just upgraded my semantic-linkbacks a few versions, from 3.7.x to 3.9.0, and i'm no longer getting avatar images. example: https://snarfed.org/2018-09-04_i-dont-hang-out-on-the-internet#comments
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snarfed i'm guessing the root cause is the php-mf2 parser upgrade, but not sure
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snarfed (webmention plugin version 3.8.2)
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[jgmac1106] [Serena] Here is the draft of a new WordPress Getting Started guide I have been developing: https://indieweb.org/User:Jgregorymcverry.com/getting-started-with-WordPress-for-beginners
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[jgmac1106] but basically if you manually add an h-card you don't need the plugin....but be careful as you need the hcard on the post pages and the plugin will put them there. The best option for a manual h-card is usually in the header of the footer.
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[chrisaldrich] snarfed: there was an initialization error in one of the recent versions. Try going into the settings and resaving them. That may fix a part of the problem you're seeing.
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[chrisaldrich] [Serena] You might also find some value in some of what I've written at https://boffosocko.com/research/indieweb/, and in particular the first few articles as well as the pencast and/or youtube walkthrough which does a bit of explanation on some of the individual parts and what they do
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Loqi IndieWeb Collection
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snarfed [chrisaldrich]: thx, will do
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[chrisaldrich] snarfed, I think this was the issue: https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/issues/183
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Loqi [chrisaldrich] #183 Facepiles not displaying avatars
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[chrisaldrich] or something similar...
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snarfed [chrisaldrich]: that did it!
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[jgmac1106] what did he have to do? I need to do that? I am nothing but blank avatars...except when through bridgy
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snarfed [jgmac1106]: https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/issues/183#issuecomment-393944756 worked for me
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Loqi [troutcolor] @chrisaldrich I had the same problem. After reading this I turned ' Show avatars on webmentions if available' off saved and turned on again. This fixed it.
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[chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] I think what you're seeing is related to this issue: https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/issues/178#issuecomment-407884642
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Loqi [chrisaldrich] In version 3.8.1 it currently appears that comments from WordPress and Micro.blog (both of which have Gravatar as a commonality) appear to be automatically using the default mystery person avatar even though there is a separate avatar defined within ...
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[jgmac1106] i can't even send webmentions so I guess a blank face pile is the least of my convern
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metbril is pfefferli online?
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metbril switching to slack
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[metbril] [pfefferle] Are you online?
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[metbril] I'm using Webmention together with Semantic Links
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[pfefferle] yes
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[metbril] Those have updates
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[metbril] What I notices is that the facepile icon links to my homepage and not the the source link
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[metbril] Is this the intended behaviour?
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[pfefferle] this was requested, I think from [snarfed]
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[metbril] I don't like this, since if someone mentions me in a post, I would like to read about it.
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[metbril] Now I have to open the site and search
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[metbril] Or am i missing something?
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aaronpk if someone mentions you that would show up as a reply right?
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aaronpk facepiles are just for likes/reposts? which don't have any additional content
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[pfefferle] no, not mentions… only replys
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[metbril] Well, for testing I have created a new post that links to another of my own posts. This creates a new comment, through webmention I guess
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[pfefferle] but [metbril] feel free to file an issue, so we can discuss about a more user friendly solution
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[metbril] When I approve it, it only shows the / my icon with the link to the homepage
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[metbril] I will file an issue. But since the plugin was updated. Was this different the other day?
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[pfefferle] not in one of the last releases
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[pfefferle] it was in october 2017 https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/commit/6c0386ae3299ae3e5c41c22d7d2e739a03cc9d3b#diff-f81f3dff36bf04b7a070d642c858e883
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[metbril] Thanks for searching. My new issue (for discussion) is https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/issues/208
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Loqi [metbril] #208 Facepile for webmention does not link to source
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[metbril] I will add your info and mention [snarfed]
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sknebel snarfed's issue mentions likes and reposts, where it makes sense. for mentions linking the post is more important
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[pfefferle] 👍 thanks
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GWG Good morning