#wordpress 2018-10-16

2018-10-16 UTC
[jgmac1106], [dave], bradenslen and [asuh] joined the channel
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[asuh]
I see a universal plugin called Syndication which combines bridgy-publish into semantic-linkbacks + webmentions. The fact that Webmentions is highly dependent on Semantic Linkbacks (that will soon contain Bridgy) sets this up naturally. I’m sure it’s a lot of work to get to this point but this would be a good step to unify all syndication sends and receives.
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GWG
You do?
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[asuh]
I’m brainstorming out loud
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GWG
Bridgy Publish is being deprecated
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GWG
I plan to fold it into Syndication Links
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[asuh]
oh right, I left out Syndication Links from the above vision
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[asuh]
Then that would potentially be four plugins in one that could simplify the plugin ecosystem for getting WordPress up and running
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GWG
Semantic Linkbacks and Webmentions are under pfefferle.
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GWG
Syndication Links and Bridgy Publish are mine
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GWG
But I am planning a rewrite of the functionality, not a merge
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GWG
For now, I need to fix Post Kinds
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GWG
Are you having trouble with the new version?
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GWG
Also, Simple Location has an issue now
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[asuh]
I haven’t seen any Post Kinds problems but what [jgmac1106] was talking about earlier regarding Post Kinds display by default made sense based on my issue with Webmention
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[asuh]
I will try to make time and play with the newest Post Kinds version. Anything in particular that needs testing?
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GWG
[asuh]: Someone was saying old posts weren't rendering correctly on the back or front end
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jgmac1106
feel free to look at anything I posted after 3.1.1.
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[asuh]
I’m trying to wrap up my first phase of theme development to get my site mostly Indieweb compatible. I have an idea to create a new repo with pieces of a theme that would need to connect themes to become more Indieweb compatible rather than just relying on homebrew themes we’ve built. But I realize that’s ambitious so I’m still giving it thought
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GWG
jgmac1106: Is it not working for you too?
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jgmac1106
as far as I know but I am not looking at my posts through readers or parsers
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GWG
jgmac1106: So, it is limited to one person so far. Odd
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GWG
They are reporting that things are showing up as 'Array'
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GWG
I cannot find anyone else reporting same
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jgmac1106
I didn’t see issue beyond the two from [johnjohnston] and the other from [mrkndvs]
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jgmac1106
how would I check that or would I know
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GWG
I fixed [mrkndvs]'s issue as far as I could tell, but he may still have another one.
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GWG
jgmac1106: Try to edit an old post.
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GWG
Now I have this Nominatim problem
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GWG
But I didn't cause that
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jgmac1106
no hope I didn’t I just tried to add a token today like you suggested, hope it is coincidence
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jgmac1106
I would just deprecate simply location until a replacement can be found or people need to just use their phones
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[asuh]
I edited an old post with Post Kinds 3.1.1 and I don’t see anything out of the ordinary
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[asuh]
Just added some content into the editor. Something else I might do?
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[jgmac1106]
then someone might have a plugin conflict or theme conflict. I have heard no problems since 3.1.1. update, and I would have
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[jgmac1106]
@gwg just make sure any deprecated version of brid.gy publish stills threads nicely with twitter...untilt hey shut down the whole show
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[jgmac1106]
thats all I would care about
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GWG
jgmac1106: This is Nominatim. It wasn't using a token. Everything else was.
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GWG
jgmac1106: What does the phone have to do with it?
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GWG
Simple Location handles displaying location data
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GWG
Even without getting it from other things
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[jgmac1106]
you could just grab GPS coordinates if location services are on
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GWG
[asuh]: Nothing I know of.
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GWG
[jgmac1106]: Yes, however, WordPress won't display it without Simple Location
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[jgmac1106]
so what, the coordinates matter, people can search for now. keep the cruise ship afloat then worry about hiring the band
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GWG
[jgmac1106]: I'm confused about the reference there
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GWG
Specifically what you consider keeping it afloat to be?
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[jgmac1106]
meaning what is the minimum location data you could display to be useful to the reader and capture author intention
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GWG
[jgmac1106]: I'm going to do some bugfixes on it regardless.
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GWG
It already doesn't fail gracefully.
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GWG
And I'll see what Nominatim says
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[jgmac1106]
the map is really useful, yeah it might just be an email answer
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GWG
And since Mapquest has a nominatim server that will work with an API key, I'll add support for that
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GWG
[jgmac1106]: The map isn't broken
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GWG
That uses Mapbox or Google or Bing
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GWG
I have three map providers
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[jgmac1106]
but the data is what is portable...that is awesome...ohh okay, sorry you know I don't know this stuff
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GWG
Admittedly, it should fail better if none are working
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GWG
Simple Location uses an extensible provider system
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GWG
For static maps, it can use Mapbox, Google, or Bing
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GWG
For reverse geocoding, it can only use Nominatim right now, but I've been meaning to add alternates
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[asuh]
that’s great that there’s choice
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GWG
For Weather it only supports OpenStreetMap but I wanted to support DarkSky and Weather Underground
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GWG
[asuh]: Writing code to convert API output to a standardized format requires some testing
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GWG
I also have some known bugs in Simple Location I wanted to fix anyway.
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GWG
so, my plan is to add an alternate provider in the form of one that supports the same API.
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[jgmac1106]
no problem updating old post
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GWG
I also want to make it so the lookup for location is done automatically on a Micropub request because Indigenous for Android now does location
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GWG
So, these are fixes I want for my own use
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GWG
I also have a few complaints about privacy settings not working to spec
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GWG
So, I have a good few days of tweaks I can do, and hopefully by then, Nominatim will get back to me
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[jgmac1106]
that is what I meant by use the phone
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GWG
[jgmac1106]: Yeah, but without the enhancements, the location will come through, but not the name of the location.
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[jgmac1106]
is it easier to look up the location on the device with GPS?...I don't swarm, I created shortcuts to places I go alot for checkins and made my hose a website to get over the location thing, I only installed it today to test a check in
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GWG
I also don't have a display for when there is no address description to show the coordinates
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GWG
[jgmac1106]: Well, built into Simple Location is the ability to use the browser to get the location
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GWG
GPS is more accurate, but if you don't use something like Indigenous, the WordPress post UI will just ask the browser where you are
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[jgmac1106]
I guess what I am wondering does it make more sense for the device with GPS to publish the location and name if using micropub and the browser if using desktop...Probably not possible And this is way important to your site and that is what matters most
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GWG
[jgmac1106]: Indigenous would have to use an API to look that up though
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GWG
[jgmac1106]: Android supports it though
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[jgmac1106]
...and I see your issue from two days ago...maybe you predicted this
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GWG
Did I?
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[jgmac1106]
https://github.com/swentel/indigenous-android/issues/131 not related but I went to go see if there were location discussions about maps and GPS
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Loqi
[dshanske] #131 Location Visibility Appearance
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Loqi
[dshanske] #133 Feature Request: Reverse Geolocation
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GWG
[jgmac1106]: I'm the one who requested the feature a few months ago. He implemented it, and it is in Micropub for WordPress(only place it exists right now) but the layout looked a bit weird.
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GWG
But, you just gave me the idea of Indigenous doing the lookup
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GWG
Either way, I plan to fix it on the backend.
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[jgmac1106]
..ohh and my post about the updates to 3.1.1 never went out but I word have heard mistake. Cool good luck happy to test as always
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GWG
And petermolnar gave me the idea of altitude calculation
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GWG
[jgmac1106]: I'm looking to find people other than one individual who have that problem.
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GWG
I'm not sure what makes him different.
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GWG
Other than running PHP 5.3, when I recommend 5.4 or greater
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[jgmac1106]
its wordpress,
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GWG
Yes?
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