2019-02-18 UTC
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# 14:31 GWG Is it odd that I think of Simple Location as my most successful plugin in terms of broad adoption? # 14:33 GWG Post Kinds has over 300+ active installs # 14:35 GWG That isn't counting Indieauth, Micropub, Webmentions and Semantic Linkbacks # 14:36 GWG Syndication Links is surprisingly mainstream # 14:36 GWG I always think of Post Kinds as a niche, but clearly it has broader appeal outside of the community # 14:39 jgmac1106 specifically how the reader is evolving with status updates….back to Battleship # 14:48 GWG jgmac1106, I still want to get citations as a post type replacement for the Links Manager # 15:16 GWG The question is if that should be inside Post Kinds or separate [schmarty], [tantek], dougbeal|mb1, [Rose], [davidmead], gRegorLove, [kevinmarks], [asuh] and [jgmac1106] joined the channel
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# 22:24 jgmac1106 post kinds needs to be the most basic of mf2 properties possible, more functions = more fault points. maybe a choice on a bookmark post type->sent to link manager [keithjgrant] joined the channel
# 22:55 GWG jgmac1106, progressive enhancement? # 23:02 GWG jgmac1106, the problem is that then people complain they have to install too many plugins [grantcodes] joined the channel
# 23:03 jgmac1106 think about it ontlologically, what does links manager have to do with microformats? # 23:04 GWG jgmac1106, is Post Kinds about Microformats? # 23:04 jgmac1106 you don’t need to install your version of h-cite links manager unless you wanted a linkblog # 23:04 GWG Or about different types of posts? # 23:05 jgmac1106 My rules for Post kind would be do article, note, reply, photo, bookmark, work perfectly # 23:06 GWG For me, citation is a storage format for bookmarks # 23:07 GWG Instead of nesting them inside the post # 23:07 jgmac1106 okay that makes sense then, what is the fewest bit you could get down to: <a class="u-bookmark-of h-cite" # 23:08 jgmac1106 maybe an input field for a p-category and an option to send to linkroll # 23:09 jgmac1106 this page would be x number of h-feeds named for each p-category # 23:10 jgmac1106 but new features should be new plugins, better maintenance this way. Bookmark post kind needs to add <a class="u-bookmark-of h-cite" # 23:10 GWG jgmac1106, this is mostly for backend work # 23:10 GWG Attachments in WordPress are actually post types # 23:10 GWG I want citations to work the same way # 23:11 jgmac1106 what are you attaching? you mean making an h-cite out of every file upload? # 23:11 GWG They would just store bibliographic data # 23:11 GWG Attachments are a core WordPress post type # 23:11 jgmac1106 “ bibliographic data” rabbit hole that shoudl not touch a core IndieWeb plugin like post kinds IMO # 23:12 GWG At IWC NYC, I changed Post Kinds to store the photo post data in the attachment instead of in the post referencing it # 23:12 GWG Jgmac1106, I mean name, author, etc # 23:12 GWG So, the bookmark post is just the post # 23:13 GWG I need something more robust for all the bookmarks I store [kevinmarks] joined the channel
# 23:19 GWG I think I need to fix some things with media before I try other new types [asuh] joined the channel
jgmac1106 and how would your links manager be different than /archive/kind/bookmark?