#wordpress 2019-05-23

2019-05-23 UTC
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GWG_ miklb: Unserialize? Not sure what the issue is. I did have to change it to comply with mf2 json
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miklb last time I tried exporting my WP db a lot of the meta fields were serialized arrays. I haven't tested in last couple of months. I should check again. Thanks.
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GWG_ They technically still are, just mf2 json compliant now
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miklb I might need to write a parser then to unserialze them so I can get them into YAML. But I'm not trying to start with all of my old content anyway. that will stay as it is for foreseeable future.
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GWG_ miklb: You want to export them into a yaml file?
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GWG_ There might be a way.
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GWG_ I have a function in Parse This that turns mf2 into an object.
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miklb yeah, there's a plugin already that does that. Converts all of the postmeta into YAML and then adds the content as markdown. But some of the indieweb meta is serialized in the YAML
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miklb I'd have to find my test export to see which fields
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GWG_ That should be fixable.
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GWG_ Probably any of the citations.
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GWG_ There is so much more I wish I had time to do.
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miklb like I said though, I'm cool re-launching myself on a new domain without old content. I don't have a solution for webmentions or comment migration yet so I'm not in a rush. I think once I figure out how I'm storing them on the new site, I can look at how to export in that format.
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miklb Sure. I've been slowly toiling away for months. But I have a need to do some Jekyll work for a volunteer project so it was a good time to double up on it.
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GWG_ Tell me if I can help
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GWG Morning
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Loqi good morning
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[Rose] Good morning :)
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GWG How goes the WordPressing?
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[Rose] Solid, nothing is broken 😄
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GWG I am working on two similar problems simultaneously
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GWG jackjamieson reported a slow feed search in Parse This and still working on the webmention verification code
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GWG Oddly enough, similar code
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GWG The code that retrieves and processes HTML
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[Rose] Good luck
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GWG I want some version of Yarns to be ready by Summit
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GWG So I always try to fix issues
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GWG As for webmentions, I predict that is a whole summer project
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GWG Because of how many webmentions people already have stored
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[Rose] Ok, the fields to reply to something in the admin panel aren't showing up, I think I broke it 😛
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[Rose] And webmentions can definitely get complex
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[tonz] [Rose] WordPress? Then check screen options in top right of admin dash whether response properties are checked
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[Rose] That was it! Thanks!
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GWG I have to figure out why that keeps happening
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[tonz] @gwg maybe after WP core updates?
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[Rose] That might line up with the last one. Or maybe it happened when I updated Autonomie.
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[tonz] @gwg to continue our earlier conversation about Yarns feeds being stored in wp_posts….for now I think I’ll take the route of using Yarns in a seperate / for purpose WP instance, and then point to its microsub endpoint in my main WP instance. That would keep my feeds and tinkering with them outside my live blog database, while still being able to use my main domain as log-in for it all.
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GWG jackjamieson and I may brainstorm multiple storage settings
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GWG Post table is still best for novice users
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[tonz] I agree, wp_posts is most obvious choice.
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GWG Same with using a separate polling service
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GWG Most users don't know how to set that up
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GWG I have this idea of building a comment templating system into webmentions that would allow themes to style them, overriding the default.. similar to what I did in Post Kinds
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[chrisaldrich] Good morning indiewebpressers
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chrisaldrich I just noticed that MPMUDEV has opensourced some it's plugins: https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/wpmu-dev-legacy-plugins/
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[chrisaldrich] Of particular interest to [jackjamieson] is that they've opensourced their reader plugin which I've mentioned before as an interesting interface within the edublogs space https://github.com/wpmudev/msreader
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[chrisaldrich] what is edublogs?
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Loqi edublogs is a hosted custom version of WordPress geared toward students, teachers, and educational institutions https://indieweb.org/edublogs
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[jackjamieson] chrisaldrich++ Thanks for the tip!
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Loqi chrisaldrich has 10 karma in this channel over the last year (41 in all channels)
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chrisaldrich It also looks like they opensourced their Pro-Sites plugin upon which I'm guessing they built their entire edublogs empire. https://github.com/wpmudev/pro-sites
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chrisaldrich This could potentially mean that an enterprising WordPress-based business could more easily create an indieweb as a service hosting business a la micro.blog on it?!
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GWG Interesting idea
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[chrisaldrich] apparently there's also https://wpultimo.com/ which is something similar which might be able to do IndieWeb as a service for wordpress.
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[chrisaldrich] i'll have to so some research to see if either of these lets you bring your own domain to the system.
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[chrisaldrich] If one would, should we start something GWG? 😉
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GWG I don't know, talk me into it
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[chrisaldrich] i'll do some research first, but this is the sort of thing I've been hoping someone else had already built...
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doubleloop ^ I think a WP IWaaS is a great idea
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doubleloop https://doubleloop.net/2018/02/24/1829/
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Loqi [Neil Mather] Had an idea for a cooperatively-run indieweb hosting platform.  We would help set up and / or host WordPress-based indieweb sites.  Preconfigured to interact with both the silos and the fediverse.  For mainly Gen 3/Gen 4 of indieweb, to coincide (...
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doubleloop With a WP multisite, is it possible to split out a site if someone wanted to spread wings and move onto their own hosting?
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GWG Export, I believe
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[chrisaldrich] I just got a tingle "Domain Mapping: Available in WP Ultimo core"!!
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GWG I did have an mf2 json exporter idea
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doubleloop What is a good way to test my micropub media endpoint?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "good way to test my micropub media endpoint" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "good way to test my micropub media endpoint is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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doubleloop I'm getting an error from Indigenous when posting to it
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GWG Which one?
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doubleloop Which error?
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GWG Which media endpoint? Wordpress? And what error?
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doubleloop Oh didn't know there's multiple media endpoints
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doubleloop It's when using 'Upload' from Indigenous for Android, uploading to Wordpress
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doubleloop Uploading an image
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GWG Odd, I have done that
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GWG Will try it out again just to check
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GWG Any error messages that might help?
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doubleloop > Media posting failed. Status code: 500; message: {"error":"invalid_request","error_description":[0]}
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doubleloop It definitely did work at one point, but I can't remember when it stopped
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GWG Odd.
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GWG Open an issue, and I will do some testing
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doubleloop Is there another client I could try to see if the same error is returned?
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GWG Not sure if I can nail it down
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GWG Hmm... Quill is an option.
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GWG Will have to think
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doubleloop I can't see how to do just an upload to the media endpoint in Quill
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doubleloop (Should point out that if I create a note in Indigenous that contains an image, that does work)
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doubleloop Happy to open an issue - should it go on wordpress-micropub?
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GWG Yes
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GWG I am getting it on my test site
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GWG I didn't before
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GWG Will investigate