#wordpress 2019-06-08

2019-06-08 UTC
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[pfefferle] [jgmac1106] is WordPress really removing mf1? That would be really sad! In my opinion mf1 is still a good backport and works nicely with at least with the WordPress Webmention plugin... If they remove mf1 we really NEED a working alternative... and both plugins: mf2 and mf2-feed are not ready yet... the mf2 plugin has a huge problem with output escaping and mf2-feed is not heavily adopted and needs work on client and server side 😞
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[pfefferle] [tantek] the by-name „feed“ was only added because it is an extra/alternate file... the idea was to also support rsvp and all other usecases...
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[pfefferle] I understand, that mf1 breaks all usecases except the reply/mention... but removing mf1 could break all reply/mentions except for some smaller formats like RSVP... In my eyes there is no generic way to add mf2 to a theme with a plugin, except the mf2-feed „backyard“ format... and this has to be adopted by parsers and plugins has to extend the format JSON with it‘s custom data...
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[pfefferle] I fear, that in the end, the WordPress Webmentions again look like the pingback „summaries“
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[jgmac1106] [pfefferle] I will look for the issue where it is described. Found this https://github.com/andpiazza/remove_hentry_wordpress
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[chrisaldrich] Unless there's a really huge and long Trac page for it with tests, I can't imagine core removing mf1 any time soon. That github page with only one star can't mean much.
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[chrisaldrich] Simply the number of themes that improperly have css styling for mf1 is such a large breaking change they'd never do this for backcompat reasons...
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[pfefferle] That’s clear but it works nevertheless... at least for the basic use case
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[jgmac1106] @gwg am I making this up? Could have sworn you shared an issue in a Core repo that marked removal of mf as upcoming in roadmap...
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[jgmac1106] gwg++
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Loqi gwg has 89 karma in this channel over the last year (171 in all channels)
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[jgmac1106] As I am reading WP tickets I see you have been steadily asmdvocating for four years
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GWG I didn't. They said no
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GWG The issue was for the _s theme that is a popular start for many themes
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[asuh] It looks like _s did remove .hentry from their main styling: https://github.com/Automattic/_s/commit/a52ca7441d8bb70bb4e63c50a5d15b4a8c27d441
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