#wordpress 2019-11-13

2019-11-13 UTC
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[chrisbergr]
Ok, I'll try
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[chrisaldrich]
[chrisbergr] According to the designer of 2020 it's feature set is locked, but they're open to adding proper microformats via PR
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GWG
Got URL to that?
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[chrisaldrich]
Here's his statement an hour ago about the release... https://twitter.com/andersnoren/status/1194387272004702210
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@andersnoren
WordPress 5.3 ”Kirk” is out today, and with it, the new Twenty Twenty default theme! https://wordpress.org/news/2019/11/kirk/ A ton of people from the community helped shape Twenty Twenty through design, code and feedback during the past couple of months. I’d like to highlight some of them. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJNQ046XYAANP4-.jpg
(twitter.com/_/status/1194387272004702210)
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[chrisbergr]
Can't we build a lobby that advocates that microformats become standard for wp, at least in the official themes?
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GWG
I tried once
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[chrisbergr]
I guess it needs more people combined.
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@kevinmarks
@andersnoren @melchoyce @photomatt @MrIanBelanger @carolinapoena Do you think you could add #microformats 2 markup by default? Ask @t for how
(twitter.com/_/status/1190745657260363776)
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[chrisbergr]
Thx [chrisaldrich]
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[chrisaldrich]
I'm heading out to some combinatorics lectures at the moment, but if there isn't an issue filed already, I'll post one later along with some details about a potential fix.
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[chrisbergr]
@GWG: In my case I can not use simple location out of the box. I would add some additional css to my theme to make it more fit to my overall layout.
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[chrisbergr]
But one suggestion: .sloc-icon-location is just a span but the following .sloc-weather is a p. I guess it would be better to do both as paragraph to avoid strange margin/padding differences (paragraphs are often styled different to root text)
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[chrisbergr]
sloc-weather
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Loqi
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GWG
Will have a look at the markup
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GWG
I did a bunch of stuff there
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[chrisbergr]
Is that pushed to the repo? I've just uploaded a fresh clone of the master branch
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GWG
Some of it. I have more coming
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[chrisbergr]
In 'Your Profile' the button 'Use My Current Location" does not change any value.
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GWG
[chrisbergr]: Interesting. I'll have to check. Are you using the HTML5, or the dummy optioon?
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GWG
Is it an SSL enabled site?
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[chrisbergr]
It worked in the meta box for new post. But on that profile page there is still the old data I've added manually some days ago
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[chrisbergr]
yes, ssl is enabled
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[chrisbergr]
letsencrypt if that matters
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GWG
No, but some browsers don't like http for the HTML5 geolocation settings.
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[chrisbergr]
Oh, interesting. I cleared the values manually too, saved the form and pressed the button again and now it worked.
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GWG
I have this odd recurrent default issue
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[chrisbergr]
Another consideration: In the providers settings, maybe you can enable only the api keys fields for the providers set above via javascript. I guess it will be a shock for some users to see the need of so much api keys.
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GWG
In the last version, I hid them. Then someone suggested I should unhide them.
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[chrisbergr]
And I'm not sure if the descriptions of map provider, geo provider and geolocation provider are making it clear what those are doing. I guess there will be a lot of users that don't know those names.
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GWG
That I would like some suggestions on.
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[chrisbergr]
Why unhide them? What is the benefit of a confusing huge list of form fields, while I only need 3-4?
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GWG
I completely redesigned the page to the tabbed version you see. I may do a bit more.
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[chrisbergr]
I guess it may be great for a developer who knows all those services and want to see all possibilities. But for the "real users" only show them what they need. The lesser the better.
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GWG
I would like some suggestions on the descriptions. I will see about removing some options.
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GWG
[chrisbergr]: I think some of the choices have confused people.
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GWG
I have a lot of providers
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[chrisbergr]
Map Provider: Provides Static Map Images according to your coordinates to be displayed in your posts.
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[chrisbergr]
Geo Provider: Translates the coordinates of your location into an address for output in your posts.
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[chrisbergr]
Geolocation Provider: Receives the coordinates of your location according to your phone/browser or a 3rd party service (required by map provider and geo provider)
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[chrisbergr]
No guarantee for proper english 🙂
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GWG
[chrisbergr]: It actually isn't, because you could manually enter your coordinates
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[chrisbergr]
And maybe you reverse the order, because geolocation is the most important one (I guess)
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GWG
I thought map was
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[chrisbergr]
Okay, then just strip the (required by...) thing
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GWG
It is oddly enough, my most and least Indieweb plugin
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[chrisbergr]
I have to go for today. I'll follow the repo and come back with more feedback after you pushed new code 🙂
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GWG
Trying to get to release
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beko
so… wordpress 5.3? :)
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beko
who felt lucky?
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GWG
beko: I know, I backported them to Simple Location
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GWG
Simplified some code
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beko
👍
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GWG
I also submitted a ticket to improve comment date time functionality in the same way
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[tonz]
Did not update to 5.3. yet, however I did update Postie plugin which broke the site. Also happened on other sites, so if you have Postie, don’t update it.
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beko
it seems to have worked for me (5.3, not postie)
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beko
anyway, have a snapshot in case there is trouble :)
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GWG
I am going to have to continue with Simple Location for at least one more tweak before release
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GWG
I think I will punt on imperial measurements
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GWG
How important are feet to people anyway?
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GWG
[Rose]: Got a minute to represent Compass users who also use WordPress?
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[Rose]
I'm at dinner. After?
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GWG
[Rose]: I will ask and you can answer at your convenience
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[Rose]
Perfect.
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GWG
I implemented historic Compass lookups in Classic editor. It doesn't work in Gutenberg because I didn't learn how to get the publish date yet. I need to add it into Micropub as well. But I am looking for use cases around historical location data when posting
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[Rose]
E.g. I create a post with a historical date?
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[Rose]
The first thing that occurs is I'm "latergramming" - photo and/or check in posts done after the event. Either for personal security or because I was too busy having fun to do it.
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GWG
Yes
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[Rose]
What is latergram.
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Loqi
latergram is a hashtag commonly used to denote a (typically photo) post where the post is or is primarily about something in the past, usually at least a few hours ago, more often a day or more, popularized on the Instagram silo which has the implicit assumption that posts are "instant" https://indieweb.org/latergram
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[Rose]
Does that help?
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GWG
Yes. If you think of anything else, I want to finish 4.0 and move on
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GWG
I am milestoning
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[Rose]
Let's start with that, because I'm sure it's the most common use case.
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GWG
[chrisaldrich]: Do you have any location based thoughts for 4.0? I want to finish it this week if I can
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