#wordpress 2019-11-12

2019-11-12 UTC
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beko oh. I can close it myself o0 Sorry, I'm not used to Github. We run Gitlab everywhere
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GWG I am sorry about that
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GWG You missed creepy stalker avatar
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GWG That was another mis step on picking an anonymous avatar
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[chrisbergr] creepy stalker avatar sounds .. interesting ^^
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GWG [chrisbergr]: That's what someone called it
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GWG It was a figure in a trenchcoat
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[chrisbergr] because the head shape in the image looked creepy?
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beko Avatar and WP is creepy. I've 4 avatar related plugins by now and they probably run in circles around each other as well.
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GWG I did not think it was
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GWG beko: Avatar privacy is good
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beko that's one :)
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[chrisbergr] @beko That's why I build my own one. Want to get back the control over my avatar. Exact the way I want it.
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GWG [chrisbergr]: Local or anonymous?
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beko [chrisbergr]: I'm with you on the topic. It's just that… https://de.wordpress.org/plugins/search/avatar/ *sigh
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[chrisbergr] @GWG: local (if I understand you right.-- don't want anonymous avatar)
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GWG I need a better local solution
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[chrisbergr] @beko even the names of the plugins 😞
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beko I feel totally lost with WP nowadays.
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[chrisbergr] @GWG I still have problems with the upload into a defined subdirectory of wp-content using the wp media uploader. If this is solved I may have something for you to consider.
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beko [chrisbergr]: count me in :)
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GWG By the way..here is the icon
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GWG http://plugins.svn.wordpress.org/semantic-linkbacks/tags/3.7.7/img/user-secret.svg
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beko that is creepy :D
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[chrisbergr] yeah it is 🙂
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GWG [chrisbergr]: pfefferle is working on an avatar cache for webmentions
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GWG I don't see it
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[chrisbergr] I've done this some month ago. Just to get familiar with the whole plugin development and release process. https://wordpress.org/plugins/custom-post-avatar/
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[chrisbergr] The next version of it will replace the gravatars completely. This is for the authors, so no overlap with pfefferles cache.
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Loqi [Christian Hockenberger] Description Custom Post Avatar is inspired by Aaron Parecki’s Emoji Avatars functionality on his website (https://aaronparecki.com/2019/02/25/9/emoji), but instead of beeing related to the used emojis in the content it is possible to choose it fro...
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GWG I didn't think it would.
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[chrisbergr] Requirement is that the used theme must use the get_avatar function for output. But most of the themes are covered with that.
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[chrisbergr] Why don't you think it would?
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GWG I didn't think it would interfere with pfefferle's cache
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[chrisbergr] Oh, sorry, thought you mean the complete replacement 🙂
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[chrisbergr] [pfefferle] will be your "avatar cache feature for webmentions" optional, let's say via checkbox in an options page?
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GWG I don't think it is finished yet
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Ruxton be nice if we could extend the Loqi kick for spam, to maybe chat-name votes (like RT) if it's gone past 5 mins?
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Ruxton points at hatesec_spam
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jeremycherfas !tell GWG I have Show avatars if available checked in the Webmention plugin. Where should I look to discover why they are not, in fact, showing at https://www.eatthispodcast.com/capuchins/ The comments are from Twitter; does that make a difference?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [Jeremy Cherfas] How capuchin monkeys learn about food And what that might teach us
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[chrisbergr] Hey jeremycherfas, on the your link I see 2 comments both displaying avatars.
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[chrisbergr] * "on your link"
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[chrisbergr] Both are delivered from the twitter servers
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jeremycherfas Huh! Maybe it just needed time to refresh. Or something. Anyway, thanks for looking.
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[JHSheridan] Hi everyone... I'm trying to figure out an issue I'm having on my site. I was under the impression that the Semantic Linkbacks plugin would automatically group my comments together. For instance, all likes would fall under one area. All bookmarks under another. And regular comments grouped togther separately. If you check out https://www.jhsheridan.com/officially-indieweb/. You'll see that this isn't happening on my site. Any ideas?
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GWG [JHSheridan]: Did you set the settings that do that?
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Loqi GWG: jeremycherfas left you a message 3 hours, 14 minutes ago: I have Show avatars if available checked in the Webmention plugin. Where should I look to discover why they are not, in fact, showing at https://www.eatthispodcast.com/capuchins/ The comments are from Twitter; does that make a difference?
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[JHSheridan] @GWG Would this setting be under discussion?
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[JHSheridan] I don't remember specifically setting anything related to this. I'm trying to find where this would be, but I'm having a hard time.
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GWG Yes, it is on mine
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GWG I thought we'd moved it
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[JHSheridan] I'm not seeing anything that looks related, but I'm also not sure exactly what I'm looking for
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GWG There should be a Semantic Linkbacks setting section
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[JHSheridan] is it this facepiles stuff?
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GWG Yes
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[JHSheridan] I am using a totally custom theme, so maybe "may not work on all themes" applies here
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GWG We also had an issue with Jetpack overriding it
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[JHSheridan] I don't have jetpack installed
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GWG Good, eliminates that possibility
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[JHSheridan] What are the theme requirements? I can definitely add support
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "theme requirements" yet. Would you like to create it?_ (Or just say "theme requirements is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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GWG You can add a custom template
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GWG We try to hook into filters to get comments to work as piles
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[JHSheridan] ok cool... I'm sure I can handle this. Is there any documentation? Or maybe just another theme that I can see the source code for that implements this?
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GWG It was a long time ago, let me see if I can outline it
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[JHSheridan] Awesome... thanks so much
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GWG https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/blob/master/includes/functions.php#L149
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[Rose] I should note this down too
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GWG There is a function to display Linkbacks modelled on wp_list_comments
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Loqi yea
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GWG It handles the display
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GWG Eventually, everything will change though, but not yet.
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[JHSheridan] so I guess I should add this whole function into my functions.php and then call the function in a custom comments template?
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[JHSheridan] oh wait.... just realizing this is in the repo for semantic linkbacks
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[JHSheridan] so I guess I already have this function available
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[JHSheridan] I just need to call it
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[JHSheridan] right?
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GWG Yes, and it should work fine that way
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GWG I am not sure if anyone is calling it directly right now
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GWG I really need to talk to pfefferle about a way to get to the new storage plan for webmentions
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GWG The problem is changing all the old data
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[JHSheridan] @GWG I've having trouble getting the arugemnts for the function right.
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[JHSheridan] End of the day here in Thailand, so my brain is running on E
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GWG [JHSheridan]: Will see if I can write up some notes, but beginning of my work day soon here
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[JHSheridan] totally understand... thanks for your help!
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[JHSheridan] GWG++
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Loqi GWG has 76 karma in this channel over the last year (147 in all channels)
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GWG [JHSheridan]: I really want to rewrite the whole Facepile code
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[JHSheridan] I think my problems just revolve around the custom template
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[JHSheridan] Are you just unhappy with how it works generally?
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GWG [JHSheridan]: It's part of a bigger plan. But the steps before it are difficult
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[JHSheridan] I see
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GWG There are a lot of issues opened with comments on improving the feature
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[JHSheridan] I want to find my niche to contribute here in the indieweb instead of just consume all the help haha. So let me know if you need extra hands. I build WP sites for a living, so I know the platform pretty well.
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GWG [JHSheridan]: We originally set Semantic type...reply, like, etc as a meta key, we want to move it to a custom comment type
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GWG It means a way of rewriting every existing webmention
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GWG That is hard code to write due the number of webmentions people have
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[JHSheridan] yeah... I can see how that would be tough
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[JHSheridan] ok I got a facepile going. But they're all in one pile
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[JHSheridan] that's just straight up replacing wp_list_comments with list_linkbacks()
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GWG Yes, you need to call for each type
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GWG https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/blob/master/templates/linkbacks.php
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[JHSheridan] perfect... thanks
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GWG [JHSheridan]: If you have any suggestions for improvement
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GWG The plan was to add templating so a theme could set a template for displaying webmentions
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GWG To do that now you have to override everything
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beko[m] toying with this right now.
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beko[m] https://pastebin.com/R9gJmpmX like this?
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GWG Something like that
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beko[m] well it piles Likes n stuff but displays comments. Now it needs some markup 🙂
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GWG Yes
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[JHSheridan] yeah that's what I'm going for beko... I want to display comments and pile other things
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[JHSheridan] ok I've got this working in a rudimentary fashion... should be able to massage it into what I need
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[JHSheridan] thanks a ton for the help y'all
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[JHSheridan] GWG++
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Loqi GWG has 77 karma in this channel over the last year (148 in all channels)
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[JHSheridan] beko[m]++
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Loqi beko[m] has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (3 in all channels)
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[chrisbergr] Can't wait for the templating possibilities. I don't feel good by running a heavily customized plugin that prevents me from updating it. But I really wanted to have this (https://ambersaunders.de/uncategorized/hello-world/) layout. I guess I'll also dig into the mentioned linkbacks.php to bring my facepiles up into the "content-card".
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Loqi [Amber Saunders] Welcome to WordPress. This is your first post. Edit or delete it, then start writing! https://ambersaunders.de/uncategorized/hello-world/
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beko That's odd. I felt like I'm missing half of the talk. Turns out that [JHSheridan] was not synced to my Matix client for unknown reasons. GWG and Loqi showed up.
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beko so yeah… yw =)
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[JHSheridan] uh oh... that's strange beko. I'm connected thru slack. Not sure if that makes a difference
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aaronpk it's a matrix thing. the matrix bridge is kinda buggy sometimes
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beko I hear it's just the server. Some own instance would help but everyone flocks to "the main" server *shrugs
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GWG I could use some help to close off my other project for a bit
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beko huh? as in?
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GWG beko: I got myself caught in a version 4.0 of Simple Location and I've been working on it for weeks now. I'd like to finish it up for release.
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GWG But I need some feedback on some areas I'm trying to close of
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beko oj :( I didn't play with location at all. Plugin sits just idle, decativated.
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GWG beko: It does more than just add location. It does a lot of fun timezone things
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GWG But, I always update it in advance of a trip somewhere
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GWG But this ended up being a rabbit hole of updates
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GWG beko: I mostly need a sounding board for a few feature choices.
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GWG You don't need to activate it
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[chrisbergr] You need the master branch to be tested?
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[chrisbergr] Twenty Twenty looks beautiful! I can't wait to see what the code looks like.
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[chrisbergr] ... but the "improvements" of the block editor are at least questionable.
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GWG [chrisbergr]: You can, but it is more feature considerations