#wordpress 2019-11-29

2019-11-29 UTC
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[jgmac1106] I log in and my feed is full of everyone attacking Yoast for an automatic Black Friday ad
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[grantcodes] Haha yeah that was a bad one
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[dougbeal] What is yoast
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "yoast" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "yoast is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jeremycherfas Yoast is Toast, as one wag put it.
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[Michael_Beckwit hiiii
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GWG Hi
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GWG I am thinking about merging php-mf2 into webmentions this week
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[Michael_Beckwit cool
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[Michael_Beckwit I should probably spend part of today re-reviewing and re-testing https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention/pull/230
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Loqi [tw2113] #230 Add support for outputting a list of homepage webmentions
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Loqi +1
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GWG Not a bad ide
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GWG idea
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[Michael_Beckwit the ides of webmentions are upon us
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GWG It's overdue for love
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GWG Due the fact it includes two plugins
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[Michael_Beckwit GWG trying to mentally parse out your comment from a couple days ago regarding WebMentions data structure
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[Michael_Beckwit “Current data structure stored the webmention type in meta and the protocol as the comment type. It should be the other way around”
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[Michael_Beckwit at least according to my local dev install, the comment_type gets set as “webmention”
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Anouar1 Hi
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[Michael_Beckwit and then my comment meta for it, just has the created at, source, and target urls
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GWG Anouar1: Hello
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[Michael_Beckwit if i need to keep semantic_linkbakcs_ meta keys in mind too, then I have source, canonical, and type there
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GWG [Michael_Beckwit: The new proposal would have the comment type be reply, mention, like, etc and the protocol meta key be webmention
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GWG We need to adjust all the old data
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GWG We have yet to do it due scope of work
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[Michael_Beckwit ahh
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[Michael_Beckwit if i’m understanding right, the comment type would be in line or similar with post kinds but sent to the remote site with that data
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[Michael_Beckwit i add your post as a like on my site, you get a webmention saying “you received a like from michael”
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[Michael_Beckwit if I reply to Chris, he’s notified of a reply from me
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[Michael_Beckwit etc
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Anouar1 My name is Naili Anouar and I am a developer on .Net technology and I join you after the meeting by email of Christophe Ducamp by email
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Anouar1 My name is Naili Anouar and I am a developer on .Net technology and I join you after the meeting by email of Christophe Ducamp by email
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[Michael_Beckwit welcome Naili
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GWG What brings you here?
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GWG [Michael_Beckwit: We already do this, we just don't do it the way I just outlined. We put the type in a meta key
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Anouar1 @Michaelthanks
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Anouar1 I am new to you, can you get me to a better understanding of indieweb, indeed the goal and the production of indiewb
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cambridgeport90[ Speaking of that, we need a simpler way to do person tagging. I haven't figured it out yet.
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GWG Anouar1: What is your website?
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GWG cambridgeport90[: How would you suggest?
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cambridgeport90[ Only thing I can think of is a potential dialogue similar to a hyperlink in session. Not sure what will need to be added to have the proper HTML be rendered. I wish I knew more about this.
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Anouar1 @GWG I was looking for a contribution to an open source project and Freelance work when I met with Christophe Ducamp
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GWG We're always happy to get help
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GWG cambridgeport90[: Person tagging effectively probably needs a nickname cache
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Anouar1 @GWG i have my own website hosted at appspot : https://lpgtesoft.appspot.com
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GWG cambridgeport90[: I think we have a notation re tagging needing improvements
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cambridgeport90[ I’ll have to keep an eye on that one. It’s so easy to make a mistake in writing in HTML.
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[Michael_Beckwit assuming a “recommended naming convention” from codeclimate isn’t a blocker, I think https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention/pull/230 is ready and as good as I’ll manage at the moment.
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Loqi [tw2113] #230 Add support for outputting a list of homepage webmentions
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GWG You can request a review
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[Khurt] Hi all. Webmention facepiles do not display when JetPack feature "Let readers use WordPress.com, Twitter, Facebook, or Google+ accounts to comment” is enabled.
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[Khurt] I have an open ticket here: https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/issues/222
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[Khurt] Is there are workaround for this issue?
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Loqi [khurtwilliams] #222 Webmention facepiles do not display when Jetpack feature "Let readers use WordPress.com, Twitter, Facebook, or Google+ accounts to comm...
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GWG Already a known issue.
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GWG Jetpack keeps messing things up
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GWG No workaround without calling the function in your theme
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takev[m] Hey there, I just got outgoing deletions working in my WordPress blog, and I was contemplating turning it into a plugin, but I wondering if it would be better to send a PR to one of the existing plug-ins instead?
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takev[m] Details of the hack: https://charlotteallen.info/2019/11/27/indieweb-delete-hack-for-wordpress/
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takev[m] I wanted to turn it into a plugin in order to clean it up, make marking the post easier with webpub support, and automatically resending the webmention.
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chrisaldrich welcome takev! that looks pretty cool.
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chrisaldrich I suspect it may make more sense to have something like that integrated into the webmention plugin directly: https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention
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Loqi [pfefferle] wordpress-webmention: A Webmention plugin for WordPress
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chrisaldrich I know GWG has been hacking away at redesigning it for a while.
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takev[m] Absolutely, I can see about doing a pr.
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chrisaldrich takev++ for "Sitecore and IndieWeb probably form some sort of contradiction. 😛"
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Loqi takev has 1 karma over the last year
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[Michael_Beckwit g’day Chris
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chrisaldrich It would be kind of cool if sitecore had indieweb support.
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chrisaldrich What are building blocks?
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Loqi Building blocks are key design-patterns, technologies, and methods for building and improving your independent website https://indieweb.org/building-blocks
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chrisaldrich good morning Michael_Beckwit
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chrisaldrich What is sitecore?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "sitecore" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "sitecore is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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takev[m] Oh no, now I want to create a sitecore module.
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chrisaldrich Sitecore is php right?
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Loqi ok
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takev[m] Sitecore is .NET
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chrisaldrich Alas... the original version of the WordPress plugin was written in pure PHP and was later converted to dovetail more directly with WordPress. Could have made doing that a lot easier....
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chrisaldrich what is .net?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for ".net" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say ".net is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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chrisaldrich What is NET?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "NET" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "NET is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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chrisaldrich can't think of anyone off hand who has done IndieWeb building blocks in .NET.
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chrisaldrich Surely someone has tinkered around though.
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[Michael_Beckwit i haven’t touched .NET since my weird college phase, er i mean classes
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chrisaldrich Given the user base of Sitecore, I'd suspect they'd love to have Micropub support. Could make it easier for clients to input posts/data into the CMS with a broader variety of prettier user interfaces.
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chrisaldrich What are you working on today Michael?
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takev[m] I use .NET/Sitecore exclusively in my day job, and playing with it to create building blocks is a personal itch of mine.
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chrisaldrich plurality++
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Loqi plurality has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (2 in all channels)
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[Michael_Beckwit did some review of my Webmention PR this morning, but mostly just trying to type up presentation content for IWC internal discussion
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[Michael_Beckwit so far I’ve touched on the POSSE/PESOS terminology, HWC, IndieWebCamp and the slack/irc community facets
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[Michael_Beckwit may have to publish this content via Gutenberg like Mullenweg did last month at WCUS
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chrisaldrich takev: Out of curiosity having never worked with it directly, what would it cost me to have a sitecore site on a personal domain?
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chrisaldrich I've already seen one or two people doing that sort of presentation work with Gutenberg at other WordCamps since.
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[Michael_Beckwit i believe it
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takev[m] Um, base price is $40,000 to license.
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takev[m] It's basically intended for corporate websites. Starbucks, Honda, etc.
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Loqi opensource has 1 karma over the last year
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chrisaldrich opensource++ :)
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chrisaldrich So I think I'm not going to quickly spin up a sitecore site just for the entertainment of it...
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chrisaldrich I have only ever known larger multi-million dollar companies to have used it...
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chrisaldrich Michael_Beckwit, I can't wait to see the presentation when you're finished.
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chrisaldrich Darn it Loqi. I didn't mean to create a sitecore page!
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chrisaldrich takev, I noticed that Anouar1 is a .NET dev who was chatting in the #dev channel earlier.
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[Michael_Beckwit i may have to post my current content slides to my site instead of relying on just a markdown file in dropbox 😄
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