#wordpress 2020-01-15

2020-01-15 UTC
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[asuh] Let me clarify my avatar thoughts a little.
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[asuh] The option for me to keep a copy of all incoming avatars and load them locally seems safer, GDPR and CCPA friendly, and I have no use for additional data or tracking that comes with gravatar among others.
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[asuh] As a front-end developer, I aim to reduce third-party requests as often as I can, like I used to do with jQuery. This isn’t necessary anymore for multiple reasons (I can explain if necessary).
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[jgmac1106] Anything to get away from Gravatar and WP accounts.... I am ready to start using a new email so I don't have to sign into WP to leave comments
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[jgmac1106] WP.com doesn't need to know where and whom I am writing with
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GWG [jgmac1106]: I had a conversation at WCUS with Otto, a long-standing WP fixture, and he loves gravatar...so there is a split
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[jgmac1106] people dig automation, it is more automattic requiring me to log in and not knowing how that data is shared with third party ad services,
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GWG [jgmac1106]: I mapped out/ designed a gravatar replacement using microformats and local storage
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GWG I am unsure of a few things
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GWG Which is why I didn't build it
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GWG If you allow local comments on your site and someone puts in a website,. would you want to parse the information on that site?
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GWG I haven't asked what people think about local comments vs Indieweb replies
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[jgmac1106] I think so GWG, like for semantic linkbacks to parse the h-card and store it? but really if they add the url I just want to display the url in the h-card of the comment author
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GWG But how do you know it is that person?
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GWG Semantic Linkbacks will not be getting any new features. Everything is rolling into Webmentions
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[jgmac1106] ohh you mean if they type in a rando address for spam...hmmm
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GWG Yes
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[jgmac1106] maybe you parse and if it is that person you put a verified check next to the name
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GWG How would you verify?
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[asuh] spam would lean me on the side of this isn’t necessary for comments
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[jgmac1106] so if I add jgregorymcverry.com in my comments and you parse the h-card on my site you can...oh wait I would have to authenticate...which is what happens now with WP.com
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[jgmac1106] if I comment on any WP blog with my email address I am prompted to sign into WP.com
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GWG That's where it falls down, you see
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[jgmac1106] good point micah....but we do end up with a ton of empty facepiles, but those are more from twitter
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[asuh] right, facepiles are basically all from Twitter
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GWG we've talked about storing the avatars for ages
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[jgmac1106] you could add an input to comment field...do you want to verify this comment, if checked then you parse and I must authenticate
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[jgmac1106] and if you have webmentions enabled you wouldn;'t use native comment feature anyways
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GWG Authentication using IndieAuth?
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[asuh] authentication would be the path to allow this feature in comments. but i can’t see a use case where it’d be desired
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GWG I would rather try webactions
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[jgmac1106] so I think micah is correct keep it simple as no real functionality gain
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GWG If we can do that
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GWG You could have a share target that opens your Micropub client
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[jgmac1106] yeah,IndieAuth...but if I have all that is required to allow native comments to parse, I am a kool aid drinker and would send webmention
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[asuh] I think authenticated comments might help with verification, authenticity, and yeah maybe in that respect parsing the site information is ok, but to do with all the extra info in a simple comment?
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GWG I also considered an h-card importer for users
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[asuh] i do like the thought that someone comes in a post I wrote to leave a comment in an authenticated way in order to immediately syndicate that comment back to their own site however they want
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GWG Will have to think
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GWG I have some PRs for webmentions and mf2 feed awaiting feedback, so I am refactoring IndieAuth so I can more easily maintain two implementations
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[asuh] GWG, it sounds like what you were asking about parsing the URL information kind of touches on what I’ve learned to be microcontent.
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[jgmac1106] [arush] you may want to go with a shorter note in you h-card...makes for a really long comment your div site-description
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