#wordpress 2020-02-07

2020-02-07 UTC
miklb, [snarfed], maxwelljoslyn, [AlisonW], gRegorLove, simons, [Michael_Beckwit and [jeremycherfas] joined the channel
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GWG
[Michael_Beckwit: Did you see the Micropub change log?
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[Michael_Beckwit
i know i read over it, but I don't recall it at the moment
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[Michael_Beckwit
anything in particular i should check out?
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GWG
[Michael_Beckwit: Didn't you ask for a way to set a custom post type?
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GWG
Am I misremembering?
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[Michael_Beckwit
ah, yeah i think i di
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[Michael_Beckwit
did*
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[Michael_Beckwit
i believe it was for indie book club posting and sending those to a custom post type
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[Michael_Beckwit
thanks for the filter šŸ™‚
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[Michael_Beckwit
sorry, it's been a busy mental week
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GWG
I can imagine
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GWG
Joining us this weekend?
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[Michael_Beckwit
yep. i believe I even did my first RSVP post
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GWG
Great
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beko
Is there a way to set the default post type for Micropub? Not the post kind. It's usually 'link' but I'd prefer 'aside'
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[jgmac1106]
can you install a WP site and never sign up for a WP account?
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beko
self hosted? yes.
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[jgmac1106]
okay good, my email got linked because I sign people up to wordpress.com and now I worry
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beko
Didn't sign up in 16 years. When I did so this year it was to be able to comment on a wp com site without using login via anything.
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[jgmac1106]
...yeah how much of that data does Automattic track, share with third party ad?
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beko
Who knows. My concern is: Almost anyone has a "Lik it on FB" button and almost anyone has Gravatar. What else do you need to make a decent web profile of activities? Gravatar is a red flag for me. I want to get rid of it.
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beko
Mayhap add disqus
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[jgmac1106]
I am fine with webmentions and social readers only. Just trying to think about the most provate , do not share any tracking with any third party ads, approach using WordPress, possible
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[jgmac1106]
to me this is avoiding Gravatar and a WordPress account, just wondering if possible
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beko
Gravatar is a constant PITA. It sneaks in again and again. Sometimes via a Webmention even. Just look for gravatar plugins. The sum is mindboogling and this is still core.
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[jgmac1106]
or if people have any documentation, ToS or privacy statements on Gravatar, to relieve worry that is fine too
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[jgmac1106]
just being extra careful. Sites will be for kids 13-18
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beko
Don't think WP is good for that. You get 3rd party by plugins easily as well. How many people do check the source of a plugin before using it? I do. That's just a quick glance tho and just a snap in time. Any upgrade can change the situation again.
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[jgmac1106]
okay no Gravatr seems possible: https://wordpress.org/support/article/how-to-use-gravatars/ and I won't be doing multiuser sites,
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[jgmac1106]
Only going to do core, and IndieWeb plugins, usually add a page builder plugin so people can build pages the way they like on top of IndieWeb themes, but may not do that
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[jgmac1106]
name.com donated free domains to our students and a ton of space for youthnetwork.com (gonna build it out this weekend)
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beko
nice
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[jgmac1106]
Need to explain a lot of jargon, in both English and Spanish, to parents.
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beko
I'm compiling you a list of my (non indieweb) related plugins concerning privacy [jgmac1106]
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[jgmac1106]
Has to be SemPress I think because that is the only one in wordpress.org and if I am going to manually update things I would use Known, SemPress+IndieWeb plugins = automatic updates. Time saving X 30-45 websites =happiness
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Loqi
beko has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (7 in all channels)
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[jgmac1106]
another thing is search engine, I currently use google and twitter to search my Known site more than my own native search
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beko
SemPress is pretty neat. There's also Autonomie but that has to be fetched manually from github.
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beko
I've some experience with Elastic but that thing is a monster|memhogger
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[jgmac1106]
yeah would use Autonomie but [pfefferle] is at capacity to handle all the kruff of approval....getting more themes into wp.org should be a high community goal IMO hint..hint chrisaldrich, congrats on new theme
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beko
Mine is just css hacking so I'm not really considering a child theme at this point.
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[jgmac1106]
SemPress also gets kudos from accessibility crowd, IMO its the page building feature people like just as much as the social stream stuff
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[jgmac1106]
thank you..well off to drop off kiddos and then head to work from brother in laws to watch his dog
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GWG
beko: That is a post format, not a type
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GWG
Re gravatar, I have gotten some interesting opinions
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beko
right
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beko
What was the magic memento url for "today happened" GWG?
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GWG
Tod
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beko
ah. found it in src. pattern is /onthisday/02/02/
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beko
neat. works with /02/00/ for months :D Alas pagination seems to be broken.
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GWG
beko, really?
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beko
I get 404 and I'm kinda sure there are more posts
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[jgmac1106]
beko other reason I pulled a bit away from WP.org was the transition to Gutenberg, not the tech stack, but how it was handled...CEO of Automattic was on all the podcasts proudly boasting about being a "dictator for life" and it is "his way or the highway"
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[jgmac1106]
just game off so broish...and I favor governance models that put more power into the community rather than one person...but
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beko
sounds unhealthy. never followed the development at all. Jumped the waggon in 2004 when it was fresh out in the public. I'm just amazed by the fact that it still works and survived so many updates, server moves, database changes, charset changes n stuff.
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[Michael_Beckwit
iā€™m wholly convinced that Matt somewhat strong-armed Gutenberg because he allowed the REST API to go in when it did
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[Michael_Beckwit
which i find a bit ironic because Gutenberg is built off of the REST API as well
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GWG
I like the rest API, [Michael_Beckwit even if I am not big on Gutenberg
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