#wordpress 2020-02-09

2020-02-09 UTC
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[jgmac1106]
GWG did the Borg subsume Zegnat into the WordPress collective?
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[Michael_Beckwit
until told otherwise, i assume he's stuck in the 5min install
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Zegnat
Going to give it a fair try in the morning. The plugins look good, but it will all be about the editing flow
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sknebel
is playing with tiddlywiki again
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cambridgeport90[
Eats (Discord): I still have to decide what I want to do. It will be fun either way. I might go back to WP; the enhancements while I've been gone look great. Buyt what did I do with iW26 is question numero uno.
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swimrr
hi
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swimrr
is it necessary to enqueue child theme stylesheets? I ask because I've read it isn't
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swimrr
which is not what wordpress.org says
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[Michael_Beckwit
they just need to exist, you don't need to load them to the browser
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[Michael_Beckwit
at minimum, they need to have that header block giving the theme name, author, version, parent theme reference, etc
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swimrr
I thought they had to be enqueued?
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[Michael_Beckwit
they likely say that thinking you'll be adding your custom styles to that file
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[Michael_Beckwit
however if you're wanting to use something like sass or so to build other stylesheets and enqueue those, that's perfectly valid
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swimrr
I just want to add styles to the styles.css stylesheet in my child theme folder.
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[jgmac1106]
if you use the css in customizer it will not be over ridden when your theme updates
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[Michael_Beckwit
then you would want to enqueue the child's style.css
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swimrr
Thanks michael
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swimrr
I appreciate it
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[Michael_Beckwit
welcome
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[Michael_Beckwit
customizer would also be a viable option as well, as Greg mentions
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swimrr
how does one make sure you're enqueueing all the parent stylesheets (in case there is more than one, which I'm not sure of)
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swimrr
that documentation says it will only work if all css is in styles.css
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[Michael_Beckwit
if the parent styles were meant to be enqueued, it'd be handled already by the parent. you just have the 1 to worry about
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[Michael_Beckwit
and the documentation is still going to go with a "lowest denominator first" approach. They assume someone making multiple extra stylesheets generally knows what they're doing already
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swimrr
Thanks again Michael, your help has been invaluable.
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swimrr
Cheers sir!
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[Michael_Beckwit
happy WordPress developing
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[Christina_Hendr
Not sure I'll have time tomorrow but at some point I do want to get started on a WP site where I can play with and learn about these tools. Question: I have multisite WP on my domain, so one thing I could do is just create new subdomain (e.g. christinahendricks.ca/[title]). Or I could by new domain. Former seems easier; any reason it might be a problem?
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[Michael_Beckwit
nothing i can think of for problems Christina
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[Michael_Beckwit
mostly a question of if you network install or install in just one of the sites
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[Christina_Hendr
Thanks! I would just install in one of the sites for now until I learn more.
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david.shanske.com
created /2020/Online/wordpresssecrets (+152) "Created page with "------------ IndieWebCamp 2020 Online Session: Secrets of The WordPress Experts == Participants == * {{gwg}} * {{Apiratelifefor.me/}} {{clhendricksbc}}""
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Zegnat
GWG: here is a question, does WordPress have a concept of post revisions/versions? Can it keep track of changes throughout edits?
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GWG
Zegnat: Yes it does
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Loqi
GWG: chrisaldrich left you a message 15 hours, 8 minutes ago: When you remember, can you send me a pointer to the code for adding tag/category feeds to the header of the individual page posts where they occur?
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Zegnat
I should figure that one out too then. I think content history will turn very important to me
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[jgmac1106]
Yes. Every post has a revision history
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[jgmac1106]
In terms of you hacking on your theme... I don't know much about how that is tracked. Most just use a child theme and something like GitHub
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[jgmac1106]
https://en.support.wordpress.com/editors/page-post-revisions/ WordPress.com only stores last 25,wonder if wp.org diff
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Zegnat
All my code is always in git, so that is not a problem. I am woried about content revisions alone.
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[jgmac1106]
That is done. Available right in editor
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[jgmac1106]
People like this plugin VersionPress
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[jgmac1106]
Seeing sone security warnings about it though
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[jgmac1106]
Some* but general revision history is native
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Zegnat
Had a very quick look at versionpress, but that seems to do something completely different. As its goal is to version for all changes, track database, etc.
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Zegnat
I just need a way to see when I changed posts and what I did to them. (And maybe make it possible for people visiting the site to look at revision history too.)
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[jgmac1106]
then you need to do nothing, that is native, I will grab a screenshot one sec
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[jgmac1106]
weird...hey gwg why do I not see revisions in screen options?
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GWG
I am not sure, let me look
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GWG
chrisaldrich: You had a question re feed discovery
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[Christina_Hendr
Looking to use a WP theme: any reason to choose one or the other between sempress and Autonomie? I just like the look of the latter better, but maybe one or the other is better in terms of how it operates...
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GWG
[Christina_Hendr: Autonomie is newer, but not particularly
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[jgmac1106]
[Christina_Hendricks] do you want to track the community and manually update your themes from GitHub when someone pushes a theme update or do you want automatic theme updates from WP.org? If automoation is goal uyou can only choose SemPress
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GWG
[jgmac1106]: There's a plugin that can do it from Github automatically actually
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[jgmac1106]
make sure those instructions are included on any wiki page for a theme not in WP.org
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[jgmac1106]
may already be there
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[Christina_Hendr
Thanks for the help! May do sempress at first then just for convenience until figure out github plugin.
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[jgmac1106]
[Christina_Hendricks] I have a ton of tutorials on SemPress too I think..lemme check:
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[jgmac1106]
some of these maybe out of date due to plugin updates but they shoudl pretty much cover everythign SemPress: https://www.youtube.com/user/intertextrEvolution/search?view_as=subscriber&query=%23edu522
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[Christina_Hendr
Another question: I set up a new site on my WP multisite for this, but now am realizing what [Michael_Beckwith] was saying earlier--if I do that then the plugins seem to need to be network installed. Will that mess with anything I already have in my five or six other sites on that network? E.g., I think I recall from the session yesterday that part of the IndieWeb plugins includes classic editor. If that gets network installed
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[Christina_Hendr
does it mean all my sites will then use classic editor?
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GWG
You should be able to add it on a per site basis
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[Christina_Hendr
Oh wow--those look they will be so helpful. Thank you!
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[Christina_Hendr
Maybe I set it up incorrectly because when I go to plugins on my site on the multisite it only gives me the option to use plugins already network installed. The only place I can add new plugins is on my network settings page.
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[Michael_Beckwit
Classic editor should allow switching between editors too. You can only install at network level, but can activate per site in the individual sites.
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[Michael_Beckwit
Once a plugin is network installed, it'll not show it in the individual site, if I recall right
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[Michael_Beckwit
But if not network active, it will list for per site activating needs
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[Christina_Hendr
Yes, now I understand--I network installed but didn't network activate and now it shows up as an option to activate at the individual site level. Thank you, everyone--super helpful. Thanks for helping out a total newbie with basic questions! 🙂
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[Michael_Beckwit
Glad to help
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