#wordpress 2020-09-13

2020-09-13 UTC
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GWG I really don't want to make people get an API key
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cambridgeport90 What would we need an API key? Twitter, I would imagine? How about on other sites, though? Seems odd that the name field didn't populate especially if the site in question has micropub enabled. I forget whether I had to change something last time to make it work ...
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GWG cambridgeport90: Each site is different. I'd need to look at each URL to see what it returned
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GWG Are you talking about the arush.io one?
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GWG It isn't marked up correctly
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cambridgeport90 That was the last one I replied to recently, yes. I can always pin her, too, since she's actually a core developer on WP, herself. Pretty nice actually, and I get a kick out of her site.
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cambridgeport90 This is more of a general one, but what about when reading random stuff on the web, and when sharing it as a read ... I highly doubt that a random new site will have markup displaying correctly at all.
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GWG cambridgeport90: Depends on the site...I use a variety of different factors
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cambridgeport90 So, in my case, then, what do I have to do to ensure that if someone bookmarks something of mine, for instance, it shows up correctly?
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cambridgeport90 It all has to do with the URL, though, doesn't it?
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GWG cambridgeport90: It uses microformats, if not available, JSON-LD, if not available ogp
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GWG So, in the example, there are microformats, but there is no title
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cambridgeport90 But it's hard to tell which stuff is available on the site you're going after though, right? And anything that's not available automatically can also be filled out by hand, I would assume?
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GWG Yes, that's why I test a lot of different sites.
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GWG And always manual is an option
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cambridgeport90 I think I had to do a lot of that in the past since I'm always sharing stuff from around the web, and I like it to look good.
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cambridgeport90 Still getting used to the different post kinds, though. I am hoping to see about doing video and audio stuff later on in the year, hopefully before 2020's out, but I have to wait till I get an Azure storage account. Server host doesn't want me hosting media up there on the server itself.
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cambridgeport90 You asked that question of us earlier. I think that was you?
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GWG Yes
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GWG cambridgeport90: I am working on improving them
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GWG I like things to look good too
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cambridgeport90 I think the issue I am still having is trying to figure out which parts of the post are done for you, and where the author has to come in and help things along. I find that in a WP setting, it's harder to see the source of the page, as it would be on some others. Not sure though whether that's my actual issue.
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GWG It varies
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cambridgeport90 I think a lot of this will become easier when post formats go away and post kinds become a mainstream thing.
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GWG cambridgeport90: I'm not optimistic
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[asuh] Are post types the same thing as post formats?
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[asuh] Oh right, Post Kinds are equivalent to Post Formats
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cambridgeport90 Post formats are the older form of Wordpress' taxonomy for different kinds of posts. That sort of gave way to post types, and now we have post kinds, which extends it even more. Did I explain that correctly?
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GWG Post types predate post formats, I believe
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[asuh] cambridgeports90, yes that sounds right. Are Post Formats announced to be formally dropped in the future?
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[asuh] I think I remember reading something like this but don’t recall
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cambridgeport90 I think I heard something about that as well.
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[asuh] I remember when post formats were first introduced years ago, they seemed unnecessary. It’s only in the last few years of heavier social media use that it clicked with me on why I needed to care back then, but they were so primary and without much use outside of taxonomy purposes.
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[asuh] Without being overly opinionated, but knowing it probably needs to be, Post Kinds could very much supplement the Instagram, Snapchat, Tiktok, Twitter markets of small bursts of content in the respective visual formats that each provide.
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GWG Working on fixing some of the photo, video, and audio.
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[asuh] GWG, are you leaning into anything that the default WP themes provide visually as UI for photo, video and audio posts?
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GWG [asuh]: Such as?
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GWG I'm using the built in short codes to generate the information. And if something is embedded in the post content, I'm shutting my code off
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GWG That's what I have been working on
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[asuh] Twenty Twenty theme, for example, has default styling for all three you want to test. I tried both with Classic Editor and Gutenberg and I see similar visual formats for image galleries and images.
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GWG [asuh]: I assume it uses the standard code to generate it...same code I use
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[asuh] Okay, was curious if that UI example could save you some time
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GWG It might.
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GWG But I think there is a lot more to do
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[frank] [jeremycherfas] I took a look at my old theme based on Independent Publisher and later Indieweb publisher. Semantic Linkbacks is turned on. But somehow the facepiles don't show up, just a list of webmentions. But when I switch themes to Genesis Sample (the one I use now) it just works and I have avatars showing up by default. So I need to dive deeper on why this happens.
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[jeremycherfas] Interesting. I don’t know Genesis Sample. Did you IndieWebify it?
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GWG Okay. MF2_Post is gone, save one area I need to modify. But I think I can do that in Micropub
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[frank] [jeremycherfas] It's the default childtheme for the Genesis framework. I just added the Indieweb plugins and added some Microformats2 code to functions.php. Based on the first work of a Genesis Microformats2 plugin a friend of mine is building: https://github.com/remkus/genindie
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Loqi [remkus] genindie: Bringing the IndieWeb to the Genesis Framework
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[frank] And here's my childtheme based on Genesis Sample. It's what you see now on https://diggingthedigital.com/ https://github.com/frankmeeuwsen/genesis-sample
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