#wordpress 2020-11-02

2020-11-02 UTC
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beko *sigh* I still have no idea why Webmentions are no longer sent by my blog. I notice that ActivityPub Stream is also dead since 20. Oct. - something broke but nothing throws an error and I have no idea where to start digging at all.
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petermolnar beko: WordPress has a debug log option, plug turn error logging to debug level in PHP
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beko Yeah I cranked that all up before. It's like the cron entry is never created
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beko Afair Webmentions hook to Pingback but none are scheduled any more. No idea on ActivityPub but that's afair a Push architecture as well, no?
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petermolnar get one of them wordpress cron editor plugins, then deactivate the webmentions plugin, and activate it again
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petermolnar see if anything happens with the cron list
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beko I've the wp cli going and a real crontab */"
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beko err, */2
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beko Bite me. Deactivating and reactivating the Webmention plugin helped. There was no new cron event immediately but when I updated a reply I got do_pings and activitypub_send_update_activity.
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beko petermolnar++
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petermolnar beko: that is not how WP works :).
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petermolnar You have a trigger which is either a real crontab entry, or a web action, but that only triggers the internal wordpress cron main hook. The internal one has a list of tasks to execute
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[grantcodes] "Have you tried turning it off and on again?" never fails!
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petermolnar if something goes wrong, these tasks get messed up, unregistered, registered too often, etc. If a plugin is reasonably well written, it'll de-register on deactivation and re-register on activation
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petermolnar tihs is why it got fixed for you.
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beko petermolnar: Yes, and I deactivated the trigger in wp-config and use a real crontab entry to trigger but the event was never scheduled when a new post was created and I have zero clue why.
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petermolnar the wp cron stack is a monster; when I made an alternative webmentions plugin I tried to make it completely asynchronous and I was messing a lot with the wp-cron options. It's BAD.
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beko the hooks in question are of type Non-repeating so it's fine when they don't linger
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beko I'm really really afraid to take a closer look at this can of worms myself xD
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beko Nice, seems to work. Kept a watch on the event list and a Like via MicroPub triggered the two required events too.
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beko [grantcodes]: Haha, true :D I'm not working with such systems for a long time now that I kinda forgot about this old wisdom :D
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petermolnar [grantcodes]: these modern days of serverless systemless wordpressless blogging, one eventually needs to know _what_ to turn off and on again :D
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beko afraid my setup is more, not less. Very oldschool :)
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