#wordpress 2023-01-20

2023-01-20 UTC
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[TMichelleMoore] Hello @gwg Can you tell me what the names of these fields are: Syndication Logs and Syndicated Links? I want to use a plugin (Yoast Copy) to copy posts and when I do, those fields are copied. But I can specify the ones to not copy.
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GWG Links is where I store the syndication links...the URLs for the syndicated copies. Logs are for the POSSE
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GWG So you probably dont need the logs
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[TMichelleMoore] So the name is “links”?
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GWG It would be mf2_syndication in the database.
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GWG I've never used Yoast Copy, so not sure how it displays it
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[TMichelleMoore] @gwg Thank you. I will share some screenshots in the coming days.
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[TMichelleMoore] @gwg That worked! So the logs don’t have a field?
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GWG They do. Just, the logs are for troubleshooting purposes usually. So, you don't really need them.
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[TMichelleMoore] @gwg Correct. I just don’t want them to copy when I copy a post and by specifying the field name, I can eliminate them from being copied.
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GWG Yes.
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[snarfed] oh btw GWG out of curiosity why do you parse and whitelist errors in the logs? as opposed to just showing the full text
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[snarfed] I've seen "unknown error" a number of times when there was a useful human-visible error message in the response
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GWG [snarfed]: I don't parse them. Unknown error means it got to the end of the function and didn't pick up anything.
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[snarfed] that's confusing then. I'd still encourage you to just show the raw response, at least on errors, since the current code often doesn't show useful messages in responses
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GWG It is supposed to return the raw response in the data property.
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GWG It hasn't been?
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[snarfed] I've seen it say "unknown error" at least twice when BF itself returned a useful human-visible error message
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GWG It should be a WP_Error of type Unknown Error, with the full error message in the data property
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[snarfed] 🤷
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GWG Bridgy returns errors in what format?
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GWG I think I see the problem. It is expecting JSON. I should be checking to see if it is JSON as opposed to assuming it is.
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[snarfed] Bridgy itself, JSON, BF often plain text
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GWG So, that's an issue bug fix
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[snarfed] thanks!
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GWG Fixed for the next release.
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[pfefferle] Hey [dshanske] I will switch 5.x to the main branch, then lets beautify the facepiles a bit and release it!!!
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[pfefferle] and than fix the bugs asap 🙂
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[pfefferle] maybe we should test the migration stuff in a live env first
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GWG [pfefferle]++
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Loqi [pfefferle] has 10 karma in this channel over the last year (20 in all channels)
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GWG I'm prepared to jump in with what is needed. it's been a rough two weeks for me schedule wise but I will make it work
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GWG I can try copying my data to a test site.
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[pfefferle] should we add a CLI command to run the migration?
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[pfefferle] https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention/blob/5.X/includes/class-cli.php
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GWG I think it would be appreciated.
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[pfefferle] done
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[pfefferle] and 5.X is the new default branch and named "main"
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GWG [pfefferle]++
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Loqi [pfefferle] has 11 karma in this channel over the last year (21 in all channels)
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GWG After work, what do you need me to do to help get it over the line?
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[pfefferle] so, then some last love for the comments template and then release it
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GWG Other than prepping the announcement?
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[pfefferle] I would love to have some last tweeks for the comment template
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[pfefferle] or is it OK to have the facepiles on top=
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[pfefferle] ???
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GWG Okay. Did we arrange to deactivate Semantic Linkbacks on upgrade?
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[pfefferle] AND THAT!
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GWG [pfefferle]: I like them there, so maybe that's a setting
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[pfefferle] the problem is, if they should be at another place, we have to use a hook
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[pfefferle] but OK, let's keep with that ftm.
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[pfefferle] can you change the PR, to remove the WIP status?
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[pfefferle] and we have to write the changelog
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[asuh] Is this the big merge of Semantic Linkbacks and Webmentions?
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[pfefferle] I hope 😉
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GWG Have to wait till lunch..2 hours
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[pfefferle] no hurry!
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[pfefferle] it lasted ages, so I think the users can wait for some more days
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GWG I'm just excited. I see the end of the tunnel
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starrwulfe[m] I’m excited to use it!
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starrwulfe[m] Will there be a specific way to migrate?
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GWG starrwulfe[m]: No, it will be automatic
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[TMichelleMoore] Lagging behind in the comments… [pfefferle] @gwg does this mean there will only be one plugin?
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[pfefferle] Only one plugin that handles webmentions
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[pfefferle] Semantic linkbacks will be deprecated
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GWG Yes, there will only be one plugin to lead them all
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[pfefferle] But not one plugin for all IndieWeb functionalities
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starrwulfe[m] GWG [pfefferle] [TMichelleMoore]... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/ec9109cb3862fee26c869f01985a15a7c37cdb13>)
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starrwulfe[m] * GWG [pfefferle] [TMichelleMoore]... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/6097971a90d1feae45396a3a88c6bcd7a3ffa252>)
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starrwulfe[m] Also how can I insert the shortlink into a blank in this message GWG?
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starrwulfe[m] The above is what goes into the comment section of all posts on my site. I've seen some where it's just a "add your webmention URL here" and that's it... I want to give some detail but not sure what verbiage is best, so just fishing for ideas from the community.
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GWG There's an off button for it and a custom option
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starrwulfe[m] The custom option is OK, but can it accept shortcodes in-line?
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GWG starrwulfe[m]: No, I don't think we run it through the shortcode function
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GWG Exactly what shortcode would you want?
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starrwulfe[m] %shortlink% so I can say:
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starrwulfe[m] - Make a post replying to %shortlink% on your website.
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starrwulfe[m] - "search for %shortlink% in your mastodon/ActivityWeb client"
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starrwulfe[m] - Use comment para.de (would need to add the shortlink as part of the query URI)
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[chrisbergr] GWG, [pfefferle] - This huge update of the webmention plugin does not include your ideas of custom post type for comments/webmentions, does it?
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GWG It will have custom comment types for Webmentions
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starrwulfe[m] I hope it will help when making replies via microsub stop using the "link" format as well.
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starrwulfe[m] I just found out that formatting is what makes all my mastodon posts post the URL to the post only; Pleroma, Friendica and others ignore it and expand the whole thing since they have no constraints; of course everywhere else is handled by Bridgy so it does what it does via webmention/micropub. I didn't know AP plugin was reading those formats, and of course it doesn't play nicely with micropub with respect to this.
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starrwulfe[m] I guess its issue filing time.
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[TMichelleMoore] @starrwulfe[m] Is your comment page on your regular website from the post above a few items? What link should I reply to? (On my phone and don’t see a text box.
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starrwulfe[m] [TMichelleMoore]: try this link:
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starrwulfe[m] https://starrwulfe.xyz/%e2%99%bc-inside-the-controversial-sales-practices-of-the-nations-biggest-title-lender/
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starrwulfe[m] [TMichelleMoore]: you’ll need to scroll all the way down to get to the comment fields
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