#indiewebcamp 2013-01-22

2013-01-22 UTC
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hadleybeeman tommorris: we just have too much in common. :)
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tantek interesting thread on "owning your own words" on branch - from mid 2012 but not sure I've seen it before. http://branch.com/b/owning-your-own-words-is-it-important-1
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tantek via @adactio
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@BarnabyWalters Currently uploading a *lot* of #buzz audio to Soundcloud. I need to build #indieweb audio hosting. (http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/863/)
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tommorris tantek: https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/How_Wikimedia_and_OpenStreetMap_can_help_us_build_an_alternative_to_commercial_Web_2.0_services ;-)
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tantek tommorris - looks good!
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barnabywalters reads
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tommorris mostly, it's gonna be talking about how we (as in free culture projects) could not suck at publishing data such that indiewebsters can use it to build their own publishing platforms
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barnabywalters sounds great!
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barnabywalters tommorris++
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Loqi tommorris has 4 karma
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tommorris thanks
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tommorris is always in need of internet points.
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barnabywalters tommorris: I’ve been testing out your /checkin/venue search a few times over the past few days
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barnabywalters is there any chance you could add in a map at the top of the search results showing the user’s current location? I’ve had some weird results and wasn’t sure if it was a GPS error or something on your/OSMs end
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tommorris barnabywalters: may just add a link to OSM centered on that point.
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barnabywalters tommorris: that would be really helpful for debugging
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tommorris barnabywalters: have you seen in the HTML? all the tags are in <!-- comments --> ;-)
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barnabywalters oh cool
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barnabywalters where is this data coming from?
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tommorris so, it comes from Cloudmade who are a commercial provider around OpenStreetMap
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barnabywalters heh, I typed in a random lat/long because my laptop won’t do geolocation, and it came out 300m from my grandparent’s house!
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tommorris getting OSM data directly is painful and computationally expensive to process
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barnabywalters but presumably they offer the service you’re using for free?
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tommorris while Cloudmade have a free-for-non-commercial-use POIs API
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barnabywalters tommorris: what about the Overpass API? Is that what you were using for osmcheckin?
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tommorris yeah, problem with Overpass it it's slow and gives you back a gigantic XML file which you have to parse into a location list
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tommorris Cloudmade API just gives you back simple JSON list of places. and you can specify the number of venues you want and a maximum distance around a point
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barnabywalters looks good. I’ll knock together a rough "checkin" implementation which offers a list from there and adds venue information to the note, the worry about storing my own copies later
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tommorris I'll dig out the API details in a sec
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barnabywalters the find?around endpoint looks ideal
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tommorris http://geocoding.cloudmade.com/API_KEY/geocoding/v2/find.js?object_type=poi&around=LAT,LONG&distance=5000&results=300
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tommorris you can substitute .js for .html to see a map in your browser
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barnabywalters looks great!
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tommorris you should set a useful User-Agent for the call
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Loqi yea!
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tommorris personally, I'm ignoring anything which doesn't have a name, and I'm also excluding things that are amenity=post_box (because who wants to check into a post box)
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barnabywalters hm, doesn’t seem to do jsonp
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barnabywalters hah, or a phone box :)
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tommorris no JSONP, sadly. if you wanna do Ajax, you'll have to bounce it from a local server
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ianloic barnabywalters, superman?
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tommorris superman wouldn't be checking in with an indie4sq. ;-)
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tommorris too busy fighting crime and saving fair maidens from bad guys
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barnabywalters ianloic: tommorris: lol
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ianloic tommorris, what's the point if your followers don't know about it?
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tantek ianloic - any mobile device's GPS has too much lag for Superman anyway - all they would do is claim he's somewhere he was maybe seconds ago.
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barnabywalters the cloudmade default profile photo is a bit creepy
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tommorris yes, weirdly creeptastic
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tommorris I've done 48 geocodes on my tommorris.org account.
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barnabywalters I’ve got a key but it doesn’t seem to work
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tommorris can take 10-20 minutes for the key to activate
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barnabywalters ah, fine now, it just took a few mins
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tommorris BEMUSE ALL THE ADMINS
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tommorris c'mon Loqi...
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Loqi grins profusely
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Loqi BEMUSE ALL THE ADMINS http://loqi.me/6Gh
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